That’s how I originally envisioned it, but the forum doesn’t support tables in posts (or at the very least I couldn’t find out how to do it). Of course we could move the list onto a website or a github repository, but having it directly here in the forum with the ability to be edited by community members and commented upon is a big plus I think.
specifying a few details
the number of USB controller is both important for Qubes OS use and also easy to add (contained in the automatically generated HCL report) – excellent idea!
the number of DIMM slots is not contained in the HCL report and in some cases hard to find
Ok, so I was able to find this for all computers on the list and I think it should be possible to determine this by web search for other computers too as they are being added.
What other details should we include?
Maybe we can make user experience even better (less unknowns before purchase)?
Well the user could always research those things themselves, but given our target group I like your idea. We need of course then also indicate (maybe through linked documentation) what these data points mean.
sorry for the delay. I mark all hints I get with a tag and then work them down. In your case that took a little moment.
Dell E6530 i5 3320M 2.6GHz 16gb Intel graphics
We don’t have a single HCL report for this machine. There is one report for a E6530 with an i7-3540M.
Would you submit one for this configuration please? It will then be added to the HCL list on the website and I can then again ‘tag’ it in another list of mine and as soon as we get a second HCL report from a another user confirming it fulfills the criteria it will be included on the “just works” list.
My E6430 is similarly trouble free. I’ll check its specs and post it.
We have HCL reports for the E6430 with i5-3340M, i7-3540M and i3-3110M.
If you can, please submit a HCL report for this machine too. If it happens to match one of the reports we already have we might be able to include it with the “just works” list right away! It would be nice to get some diversity on this list.
We have one HCL report for the System76 Lemur Pro with i7-1165G7.
Can you submit another report for this machine or whatever Lemur Pro you have access to please?
Kde slimbook
We have not a single HCL report for this one. If you can help, please do!
Tuxedo infinitybook
We got one HCL report for the Tuxedo InfinityBook 14 v4 with i5-8265U. We need at least to reports for any machine to be included in the “just works” list. However any additional HCLs you can provide are highly appreciated regardless whether they match this particular configuration or not.
Hello. I have been using Qubes 4.0.4 for a long time on my Thinkpad T430s with 3320M processor, everything is working perfectly, where should I send the hcl?
I recently switched to the beta 4.1 rc version, everything also works perfectly for me there, except for only the keyboard layout, which I created a theme about (4.1 layout does not switch), but I do not think that this is a very serious problem. I can also provide hcl with this version of Qubes.
I have a friend using Qubes on a lenovo g505s laptop, which is completely AMD and has 16 GB of memory, according to his statement, he has 4.0.4 and 4.1 beta working well, I could ask him to provide it hcl
Change: I decided that it was necessary to determine my choice of the t430s model, maybe it will be important for someone when choosing.
The T430s differs from the T430 in its dimensions, the T430 is much lighter and more compact, just as I know it comes with a new keyboard. And at release, the T430s was much cheaper than the T430.
One thing I don’t like about the T430s is that if you want to install coreboot there you may have problems with the chip and you have to re-solder it in order to install coreboot, it can be very difficult for an inexperienced person in these matters.
I can also provide hcl with [R4.1] version of Qubes.
Yes please. You can post both in one new thread at the HCL Reports category.
I have a friend using Qubes on a lenovo g505s laptop, which is completely AMD and has 16 GB of memory, according to his statement, he has 4.0.4 and 4.1 beta working well, I could ask him to provide it hcl
@Sven would it be better to separate the Qubes certified hardware list and the “just works” list? Currently, the second list contains the first one. If something is changed in the first list, you would have to edit the second one.
Instead, I suggest to add a link to certified hardware in the beginning of the post and then proceed to list the “just works” hardware without the certified machines. Something like this:
I don’t see any advantage for the users. Quite the opposite, the current list is a mix of two different things: official and unofficial recommendations. I suggest to link to the official recommendations on top, so the users are not confused and the whole thing is better organized…
The certified hardware page is linked with each entry that is certified. All links to the “community-recommended” list from the Qubes OS website are part of a list that begins with the certified hardware.
I don’t see any way this is confusing or not well organized. I do see that removing PrivacyBeast and NitroPad would make the Librem like the only option on the list offering attestation. I don’t want that. I feel conflicted about including them as it stands (they are likely to create issues down the road and this needs to be tightly monitored).
In my opinion, it creates unnecessary clutter in the list.
This is a good thing. But not everyone comes to that page from the Qubes OS website.
I disagree and actually see it the other way around. Currently, Librem 14 is on top of the certified hardware, whereas I suggest to put it below it. I don’t understand how such change would make Librem look like the only option. To me, it looks like that now.