[qubes-users] Can't start apps from menu/app finder but can from dom0?

The subject says most of it. I can start apps from a dom0 terminal with qvm-run but cant figure why I cant do it via the xfce menu or app finder. I tried running using qvm-sync-appmenus appvm but that didnt help. Thoughts?

The last two times (just tried rebooting the system) i tried to start an app up from the dom0 terminal now i cant even do that... so, is it possible to do something like mount an appvm so i can copy the important info off of it?

new observation, it seems to be related to the template, debian 10 in this case.
I switched the template for the aapvm i wasnt able to start up and viola! it opened up, then i tried to make a new appvm based on the deb10 template and, no go, nothing would start?
what about a template would cause an appvm not to start?

What have you done to the template?
There are many things you might have done , including deleting (by
mistake) Qubes packages etc. This is why it's generally a good idea to
keep a spare vanilla template hanging about, so you can rebuild as
necessary.

The subject says most of it. I can start apps from a dom0 terminal
with qvm-run but cant figure why I cant do it via the xfce menu or
app finder. I tried running using qvm-sync-appmenus appvm but that
didnt help. Thoughts?

The last two times (just tried rebooting the system) i tried to start an
app up from the dom0 terminal now i cant even do that... so, is it
possible to do something like mount an appvm so i can copy the important
info off of it?

new observation, it seems to be related to the template, debian 10 in this
case.
I switched the template for the aapvm i wasnt able to start up and viola! it
opened up, then i tried to make a new appvm based on the deb10 template and,
no go, nothing would start?
what about a template would cause an appvm not to start?

What have you done to the template?

AFAIK nothing.

There are many things you might have done , including deleting (by
mistake) Qubes packages etc.

well anything is possible but i am pretty sure i did not delete any packages lately, qubes or otherwise.

This is why it's generally a good idea to
keep a spare vanilla template hanging about, so you can rebuild as
necessary.

noted.

Regardless, i thought in the past i was able to reinstall or install another but now that is giving me problems?

[bob@dom0 ~]$ sudo qubes-dom0-update --action=reinstall qubes-template-debian-10
WARNING: Replacing a template will erase all files in template's /home and /rw !
usage: qvm-shutdown [--verbose] [--quiet] [--help] [--all] [--exclude EXCLUDE]
                     [--wait] [--timeout TIMEOUT] [--force]
                     [VMNAME [VMNAME ...]]
qvm-shutdown: error: no such domain: 'debian-10'
Using sys-whonix as UpdateVM to download updates for Dom0; this may take some time...
fedora/metalink | 5.8 kB 00:00
fedora | 4.3 kB 00:00
fedora/primary_db | 26 MB 04:48
qubes-dom0-current/metalink | 2.7 kB 00:00
qubes-dom0-current | 3.8 kB 00:00
qubes-dom0-current/primary_db | 3.9 MB 00:51
qubes-templates-itl/metalink | 2.7 kB 00:00
qubes-templates-itl | 3.0 kB 00:00
qubes-templates-itl/primary_db | 21 kB 00:00
updates/metalink | 5.5 kB 00:00
updates | 4.7 kB 00:00
updates/primary_db | 12 MB 02:02
--> Running transaction check
---> Package qubes-template-debian-10.noarch 0:4.0.1-201910230150 will be reinstalled
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
https://mirrors.dotsrc.org/qubes/repo/yum/r4.0/templates-itl/rpm/qubes-template-debian-10-4.0.1-201910230150.noarch.rpm: [Errno 14] curl#56 - "GnuTLS recv error (-9): Error decoding the received TLS packet."
Trying other mirror.
qubes-template-debian-10-4.0.1-201910230150.noarch.rpm | 840 MB 237:54
Successfully verified /var/lib/qubes/dom0-updates/packages/qubes-template-debian-10-4.0.1-201910230150.noarch.rpm
usage: qvm-prefs [--verbose] [--quiet] [--help] [--help-properties]
                  [--hide-default] [--get] [--set] [--default]
                  VMNAME [PROPERTY] [VALUE]
qvm-prefs: error: no such domain: 'debian-10'
Qubes OS Repository for Dom0 25 MB/s | 26 kB 00:00
No match for argument: qubes-template-debian-10
Error: Nothing to do.

huh?