I click the Q menu, and wether I go to Apps or Templates and click to “open” a qube. It launches according to the pop-up saying the qube is running, but I see absolutely no windows of any kind like I saw in the YouTube tutorials
Where are these running qubes if not appearing as little windows as advertised in tutorials?
I just closed the Vault Qube and thouht it would open a file directory type of window but nothing appears, nothing appears for any of the defaults I clicked on let alone the new cloned qube
I am confused as to what is happening
why are no windows in the color yellow, red, blue, gray, or black appearing. Nothing seems to happen except the notification alerts saying it is running
Does this mean this OS doesn’t have basic stuff installed, like I have to actually put it online and do command lines just to install GUI windows to see a file folder … what
I can’t believe nothing is installed in the basic Qubes OS what …
What is it even called then, what package is going to make me have a GUI view of folders and files geez this is such a basic necessity for people who hate CLI how is this so much to ask for why is this not pre-loaded omg
I am going hungry without money for food the longer I remain not up and running back online yall, please help
Well … It’s a bit confusing, could you tell us more about the VM, the template used, if you installed something in the template ? Did you refresh the application list, what’s available ?
Not answers but some notes:
I think qubes-windows-tools has nothing to do with a window manager, it’s was about Windows OS ?
apt is used on debian systems
dom0 is based on fedora, not debian
don’t install anything in dom0 without knowing what you’re doing
Xen Windows Tools unfortunately had a major vulnerability a few months ago, and its builds were removed from both mainline Xen and Qubes OS, for fear that someone might be compromised by an attacker exploiting the vulnerable Windows drivers.
The 4.1.70-1 version of qubes-windows-tools was replaced with an empty package with some information about what had happened.
Figured this might work since there is Debian in common, but guess not.
Couple of things (which were already mentioned by @parulin):
Do not install software in dom0. Do not use package management commands outside of VMs unless absolutely necessary.
dom0 is based on Fedora Linux, which is not Debian Linux, and therefore does not use dpkg and apt for package management. There are special ways to update your Qubes OS system and install templates (use qvm-template-gui).
What is it even called then, what package is going to make me have a GUI view of folders and files geez this is such a basic necessity for people who hate CLI how is this so much to ask for why is this not pre-loaded omg
A graphical file manager is already installed in both dom0 and non-minimal templates. By default, it is called by the generic name “Files”, but that is simply an user-facing name to use in menus such as application launchers. The actual name of the XFCE file manager is thunar, and you can write thunar in the terminal to open the application.
Additionally, please be more respectful and don’t assume things before fully understanding them.
It’s called Files, and it’s installed by default in the debian-12
template
apt is a package manager used to install packages on your system. It
has nothing to do with a GUI file manager.
You could use aptitude instead of apt which provides a basic GUI application.
That’s why “Files” is installed in the standard template.
If you dont have this then either:
a) You removed the package, or
b) You are using a minimal template.
The fact that you see those “application missing in template” entries
makes me think it is (b). Since you havent said what template you are
using, or what you have done to your system, I’ll stick with that.
Using a minimal template is wholly unsuitable for a beginner. Dont do
it.
The best way for you to proceed is to do a clean install of Qubes: do
not tinker with it - use it as it is installed.
You have said you have little experience in Linux, and do not have time to
read or research the issues. The safest thing for you to do is to use
the system as it is installed.
Unless the options are covered in the official docs, or are discussed
by a team member, you are simply going to be copying stuff from random
people on the internet without understanding what you are doing.
Do you think that will increase the security of your system?
Will it make you safer?
Will it make you feel safer?
No - it doe not. qubes-windows-tools is a package that provided tools for installation
in to Windows OS qubes.
The default templates come with GUI file managers installed.
I didn’t touch this at all, all I was doing was setting up users and stuff yall saw before.
Now that I am on this step, I finally clicked the Templates and Apps in the Q drop down and everything is blank except at the bottom where it says to launch the qube
I even tried launching the qube template then going to the app template and clicking that
I went back into the Manager and it has nothing listed on the left hand side like all the YouTube tutorials have but it does have those 3 or 4 on the right hand side all of with has the exclamation warning of it not existing for whatever unexplained reason
The only reason I know it works is before and even know when I click on “info” about dialog hyperlinks it tries to open Firefox in a disposable and does (obviously Firefox cannot connect to the internet though)
So Firefox certainly exists yet in the pre-made personal and work qubes it says it doesn’t, and in any new qube I try to make it says it doesn’t exist
So then I saw “Switched to Linux” on his tutorial run a “alt install” command but like other than Firefox I don’t know the names here; but get this it gave the same error when I typed in Firefox. So I have no idea where these Packages are in the OS or what these install files are called other than Firefox
Okay well I al reading through this thread right now just woke up, replied to you question but haven’t read through all replies yet so brb
My bad, the other 2 people were helping me so I was referring back to threads that they saw me do before hand. I made 2 user accounts on the same machine, I deleted the original 1000 user after messing it up by trying to rename it only to then remake the 1000 user again — that is what I mean by “and stuff”
I hover over Vault and in the next column the apps appear as Firefox, Settings Manager, and Xfce Terminal — all as expected!
Which shows applications when I hover over the “apps” drop down in the Q of Qubes’ drop down menu.
So now I am worried, when I deleted the original “star” user, even though I created a new one and put itself UID and GID and all that to 1000, did it mess something up?
OR
I did recently decided to delete the 0 LUKS slot and now I have a LUKS key only in 2 other higher count places
Did any of those changes mess with the preinstalled default package apps???
But can you guess what the cause was?
Was it me deleting the original installed user “star” after I messed up its file directory? I had to delete it and redo the entire user, and I was lucky I had already made a 2nd admin account with “wheel” and “qubes” group enabled in it or I would have been SOLed
But maybe I am still SOLed?
You think I should reinstall
That is the only time I remember deleting anything was when I went to thoroughly delete that previous user
Other than that, I don’t know how I may have ended up here as I never did figure out how to restrict the 2nd user and was putting off the long complicated instructions on how to set the SuDo password prompt
I mean, I would rather try than leave it as is because my attacker might know how to break through a hypervisor if it is stock and default all over. I want to at least try to layer up a little bit more, especially anything that would prevent him breaking through a qube or more likely prevent him from infecting any base templates that are used to make templates and/or be the base for disposables after that I want to make sure if he break through mostly everything to try to at least try to guard the BIOS/UEFI boot to prevent any persistence there too as a last ditch effort
Which is why I been trying to do all this stuff
But now it seems something wiped out all the template’s apps
I think what I will do before re-installing is try the same steps on the other laptop, except skip the mess ups. That way if this reproduces the same result I will know it is from that rather than when K deleted a user and its keyslot.
I really don’t want to use Qubes as is, it could be just slightly more secure in certain areas and I am attempting to try
I am worried as my attacker was able to break through AT&T’s ARMOR as well as MacOS firewall and even corrupt its boot etc, so I fear he likely knows or has exploits that would test Qubes’ default hardness as well and I don’t have the $ left to keep finding out how advanced his methods are or are not by sacrificing anymore devices to such malware spyware
(on the laptop I been working on, the other laptop seems fine; that laptop has a different BIOS than this 1 and I haven’t done any work other than finishing the install on the other so the other is thankfully not messed up like this one … I fear it was from me deleting that user with the messed up path or something)
