Looking to switch to a ThinkPad from a Librem14 Suggestions welcome

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Bought a P15 gen2 with 128GB ram; with a 512G + 2TB NVMe
Should have it by early December.
Unfortunately it’s a vPro, will have some work to do here,
And an Intel WiFi card, will have to replace with non-intel (as it’s part of the AMT)
And look into Coreboot, and a way to split /boot to SD card (which I’ve failed to achieve so far) and LUKS2 with Argon2id and some other tweak that I don’t need and probably won’t do but like to pretend (lie to myself) that I will somehow magically manage to do :wink:

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We are talking 64G to 128G ram here.
Your model is 16G max … you might want to look elsewhere for XEN
It has both a 2,5 hdd and a NVMe … you might want to fall back to a P53 which offer the same, but with up to 128G ram

AMD Ryzen™ 5000 Series Mobile Processors with Radeon™ Graphics push the Lenovo V15 Gen 2 (15" AMD) laptop through your to-do list. On top of that, up to 16GB memory and a hybrid combination of up to 512GB M.2 PCIe SSD and 2TB HDD storage allow for efficient multitasking, speedy data access, and plenty of storage.

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Received my P15, and my upgrades …
Installed 4x 32G RAM, kept the original 512G NVMe, added 2x 2T NVMe RAID0

    • The original 170w power brick is not enough
  1. Qubes doesn’t install (error during pre-boot check up)
    I’m sooooo disappointed ! I’ve spent all m savings in this material only for Qubes !
    I’m gonna cry for a week and then cry some more

@Erica.vH
So sorry to hear about this.
Unfortunately these problems can come when you work at(beyond) the edge of what
Qubes supports.
This is why Qubes provides the HCL, to guide user purchases.

That said, the pace of development is quite fast, so it may be that in
short order, the problem you encountered will be resolved.

Can you give some more information here? What is the error?

Can you provide specs for your P15?

I never presume to speak for the Qubes team. When I comment in the Forum or in the mailing lists I speak for myself.
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:frowning_face:
So very sad to read. When tears abate

First thought is maybe try test without added 2x 2T NVMe and or various RAM configs. Sorry have no immediate better ideas.

More info on error during pre-boot check up may also enable assistance. I hope so and repeat unman’s requests.

Hi UnMan and Confused,
Thks for your posts, both.
The spec for the P15 are in my previous post.
I don’t blame Qubes, I blame the laptop !
When installing Qubes, it goes through material check up and then stops with a ctrl-D option at the end. I’ve tried to save the log, but LS gives me no otpion (no disk to save it to)
For now, I’m following this lead 4.1 Installation Trouble On ThinkPad P15, Gen. 2 but the normal bios update is giving me trouble, so I’m trying off-line … if it works
Cheers,

This thread is headed slightly out of primary scope, anyone @off-topic-moderators could help moving it all (the last 3-4 posts) to a thread on its own ? “Setting up Qubes on a P15 gen2 128GB ram 4TB NVMe”

I’ve updated the bios, and gave it another try, but to no avail, it crashes during pre-test
First, it holds for about 3min (first pix), then it flows tons of lines until giving me the D. (ctrl-D option on 2nd pix)


Have you tried without having the drives in raid0 configuration?

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Hi @Renehoj,
Thks for your input.
As I am currently installing Suse, I see that the RAID is indeed not recognized, the installer only sees two 2TB NVMe as “empty”.
But these 2 NVMe in RAID.0 should not prevent install as I’m targeting the small 512GB NVMe standalone (not part of the RAID)
Suse install = 1
Qubes install = 0

EDIT: correction, SUSE install = 0,8 … error UEFI

I’ve solved this part of the problem.
As all my network is wired, all m ThinkPads are set to Airplane mode.
But as I was poking around, I stumbled on the Airplane mode … for power !
I turned it off, and sure enough, the battery started charging !

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Hi,
I’ve removed the RAID0, and started the instal with choice “Boot verbose and debug” (or something like that)
Here is where the install hang for 2min
not sure if the lack of EFI variable comes from my USB stick (Via Rufus) or the current disk (Where Win10 and Suse are installed)

I assume you disabled secure boot, and OS optimization.

Is booting with CSM or legacy mode possible with the P15?

Assuming right :slight_smile:
Disabled VMD as well. Actually, pretty much every option in the bios are off.
Tomorrow I will remove RAM and remove NVMe 1 by 1 and keep trying.
I bought this machine only for Qubes, I’m not turning back !

test 1:
Removed the upper slots 2x 32G RAM (Left the bottom ones)
Removed the upper NVMe 512G (Left the bottom ones)
Same thing, checkup failed.

As for MBR BIOS, unless I flash the chip with CoreBoot, there is no option but the UEFI :frowning:

All new Lenovo laptops are shipped with boot guard, isn’t Coreboot impossible on the P15?

Doing the installation is it possible to use alt+ctrl+f2/3/4 to switch to a single user shell?

If you can get access to a shell, maybe there is a log file that tells you which driver fails to load.

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Test 2:
Thks to Hiren Boot CD, I’ve managed to change one of the 2x 2TB NVMe into MBR, the other stayed GPT
Removed all remaining 32G RAM, reinstalled original 16G RAM
Install failed.

Test 3:
Removed both 2TB NVMe,
So left with all original, 16G RAM and 512G NVMe (GPT)
Install failed.


I’m not sure it is about neither the RAM nor the NVMe … It seems there is some about the UEFI … dracut initqueue hook …
EFI partition unknown; exiting, EFI varia not set by bootloader

don’t know, haven’t tried yet, didn’t even purchased the flasher yet.
alt-ctrl during Qubes install you mean ? let me try that
But so far, haven’t been able to save any log as there is no accessible disk (>LS = empty)

maybe check your installation medium?

Test 4:
All 4x 32G RAM; only 1x 2TB NVMe in slot 1 (Slot 0 and Slot 2 empty)
Installed SUSE successfully.

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