Apologies for the comment on discourse and not the matter at hand, but reading through this thread - which I have enjoyed - I didnāt find you to be attacking or being rude. Rather informative but with a strong tone of encouragement to engage in self-education at the depth beyond which a single thread and informative responses can equip you to understand and audit these issues.
Iāve also found it fairly humorous and I think maybe your style of communication is misread as aggressive by some, although obviously gaining in its force throughout.
Unfortunately this is a common theme, and really people do need to understand that if we are discussing nation-state level adversaries if you arenāt a technical-user you can perhaps gain some basic ground in understanding areas to harden, practices to improve, and topics to research, but the only way to bridge that gap is with deep study that most - including myself - are not willing to make.
@Emily I can understand your frustration if people are not meeting your complaints with the seriousness or credulity that you think they deserve, but I think itās most productive if you keep as closely as you can to the technical questions at hand and not expound on the broader nature of your adversary and the world. This will inevitably only lessen credibility and really does nothing to move the discussion forward, irrespective of its true validity.
Itās unfortunate that the thread devolved because I enjoy reading these type of threads with input from technical users, but it seems they always tilt off track in this manner.
@Sven As it said you arenāt accepting direct messages, iāll post here also: Your moderation efforts in threads are valuable and really help to clean them up without censoring. Thanks for your efforts in this area.
Put this all behind a drop down of something like ācomment about discourseā.
And already closed?
A post was merged into an existing topic: Level of discourse
Why is this flagged? https://forum.qubes-os.org/t/level-of-discourse/17275/10
Okay, this forum is not antisocial media, so please stop and remove completely the ālevel of discourseā category.
I only want to read about Qubes here, and toxic behaviour should not be allowed. People as cayce should be blocked.
Yesā¦ searched all thatā¦ tried all thatā¦ still not getting the behavior Iām looking for.
I could burn more hours trying to figure it out, yet Iām sure the answer is simple for the pros. And thatās what forums are made for I would think.
off-topic
P.S. That was not an outburst. That was long overdue in context with @cayceās historical behavior leading to this point.
So an unwarranted targeted response to a generalization you made of his behavior despite the objective value of his contribution. Starting to wonder whose ego is actually delicate and perhaps hurt by the obvious solution (ed: a simple online search) which, according to your original post, you did not perform.
Perhaps next time specify what solutions youāve already tried and the results you obtained, including whether relevant searches were conducted. This may result in lower chances of getting triggered by straightforward responses.
This kind of outburst towards those who attempt to contribute to diagnose and/or solve someone elseās problems doesnāt seem ideal, imho. Unfortunately, Iāve been witnessing this kind of behavior in several threads, hence the reply here.
As I pointed out you have not said in sufficient detail what
behavior you are looking for, and how your working environment is
configuredā¦
Nor have you said what ātried all thatā means and how it failed to
deliver.
No one can help you if you will not provide enough information.
I do not agree, and it was unwarranted in that circumstance.
I never presume to speak for the Qubes team.
When I comment in the Forum or in the mailing lists I speak for myself.
Agreedā¦ but in context with @cayceās general behavior, it was long overdue. And if he was actually humble enough to absorb it, it would change his life very much for the positive.
or love it 
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