Hellow all. I can’t install Fedora in Qube in perfect form. I have tried to install it many times, but when I install Fedora again, it installs without all the applications.
In very rare cases, some apps including terminals can be used, so I solved a similar question in this forum before by adding a new application to FedoraQube. However, I want to create multiple Fedora Qubes because I want to use Fedora Qube as a VpnQube and each Qube individually. To do this, I’m going to create a clean Fedora template and copy it (Qube with an application added has a unique feature, and each Qube has a relationship).
Do you have any advice to solve this situation? For example, you should not be active online on other Qubes while installing Fedora. It should not be installed via sysfirewall (currently installed via sysfirewall).
if you have a similar experience, and I’d be happy if you could share it with me.
Every fresh QubesOS install have perfect fedora template. If you need more apps than in default then duplicate that template (because installation of fresh template from template manager takes ages with almost no progress indicator) and install desired apps in that template.
Then create whatever qube you want from that template.
Where do you have problems? Because it’s non problematic at all.
Fire and forget.
Maybe the explanation was not enough.
A situation where there is no app at all means that there is no terminal that should exist by default. I’ve installed Fedora many times, and on rare occasions have terminals or other devices installed in the Qube (but not perfectly Qube).
I assume a situation where I use multiple AppQubes. Therefore, I am thinking of supplying each of the AppQubes with their own VPN-Qube as an open VPN. That’s why I’m thinking of using Fedora as a VPN-Qube. However, there are only Fedora templates that are unusable or have features that are not usable, such as already using them, not having any apps at all, not being able to use all functions including the terminal, or having defects in some functions. I am concerned that using multiple Fedora templates with such characteristics will create related students for each Qube.
Or is it a matter of using Fedora templates for Vpn-Qube without compromising anonymity? I have no knowledge of it, so I asked a question.
Then in another thread I was advised to use App vpn for you. It was certainly a good idea. This is because you don’t have to create a Vpn-Qube with Fedora every time.
However, I have never used an app VPN yet, and I wanted to use an open VPN or WireGuard VPN that has a successful experience. Also, since I want to create multiple sys-whonix, sys-firewall, sys-net, etc., as well as VpnQube, I thought it would be necessary to install a clean FedoraQube or whonix-gateway.
On the left side are all available apps and on the right side are apps that was added to Q menu and are visible.
Those apps are installed and you can run them from terminal or make .desktop files to autostart them, but to chose them from menu you must add them to the right pane.
In fact, my Qube symptoms are different from those in the photo, and everything including the terminal is {application missing in template} and does not work at all. By the way, there are not many apps that can be installed on the left.
The use of the word ｛app｝ seems to have been misleading (I wrote it that way because it actually said so), and from now on it will be called {basic system}. There seem to be four ｛basic systems ｝(if I don’t remember correctly), including a terminal and a system of apps that can be installed on the left side.
I don’t understand you at all.
In that windows of yours there are apps that is installed in template/qube on the left side.
On the right side are apps that was moved to be accessible from menu. Xfce Terminal is not a system, it’s an app. All those what you see over is installed apps both on the right and on the left. Period.
The one that you highlighted, some-app (strange name) for me looks like you made .desktop file, added it to menu and then deleted it so it’s missing.
This menu don’t scan automatically all available apps.
When you install/uninstall app in template, special python script is executed that on base of .desktop file of that app generates this list. If you delete .desktop file by hand from terminal/thunar then this menu/settings windows know nothing about it.
And if you have app added to menu on the right but you uninstall it from template then it will stay on the right side in settings window as missing.
You need to remove it from the right side.
The picture is just to show an example of {application-missing-in-template}. It’s not mine. A kind user showed me in the thread below. A series of issues with {application-missing-in-template} are written here.
Anyway, there are two important questions for me. The first is why this happened and what needs to be done to solve this situation. The second is that using a Qube with a part of {application-missing-in-template} as a VpnQube for multiple Qubes may be problematic from an anonymity perspective.
I don’t know if it will be useful for the first question. But I will provide you with information here.
・The storage used by Qubes as a whole seems to be about 20%, so it is not possible to run out of storage.
・Every time, an error seems to occur when installing 0.1GB more, and a message is displayed that the new Qube failed to start.
・ I have tried nearly 10 times so far, and the target is Fedora40, Fedora40Xfce, Fedora42, and Fedora 42Xfce (solene says Fedora41 has not yet been tried).
・Basically, all {basic systems} are not included, but in rare cases only some are in the {application-missing-in-template} state. Sys-firewall. I am also doing other work in parallel with installing the new template.
For the second question, I can’t create a VpnQube in the first place without all the {basic systems} in it. However, in the other thread above, the {application-missing-in-template} item of the newly installed Qube was only partial, so I was able to solve it by simply installing the {basic system}. But does copying and duplicating a Qube with the characteristic information that you have installed a specific {basic system} and linking it to multiple AppQubes as multiple VpnQubes in this way compromises anonymity?
I would like to know your thoughts on these two questions of mine.
OK.
Stop installing over and over again anything.
You have some fundamental problem with your system and installing more stuff over won’t do you any good.
First lets check disk usage in disk widget in system tray
No, I thought I didn’t need to do that because I was downloading the template itself for each version. I thought I didn’t need an update, especially since the latest Fedora 42Xfce didn’t work.
Need an update to the version Qubes is asking for?
Or do I need to manually switch the Fedora version Like from fedora-40 to fedora-41 (I don’t know of this method)?
Anyway, thank you for working with me on this issue. I didn’t know what the problem was with me.
