I have started to work on personalized templates based on ‘debian-12-minimal’.
When I install the ‘qubes-core-agent-passwordless-root’ package I receive the following warnings:
[vr@dom0 ~]$
[vr@dom0 ~]$ qvm-run -u root vr-aqt-dl12-00 xterm
Running 'xterm' on vr-aqt-dl12-00
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root@vr-aqt-dl12-00:~#
root@vr-aqt-dl12-00:~# apt update
Hit:1 https://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm InRelease
Hit:2 https://deb.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security InRelease
Hit:3 https://deb.qubes-os.org/r4.2/vm bookworm InRelease
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
All packages are up to date.
root@vr-aqt-dl12-00:~#
root@vr-aqt-dl12-00:~# apt install qubes-core-agent-passwordless-root
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
python3-daemon python3-lockfile
Use 'apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following NEW packages will be installed:
qubes-core-agent-passwordless-root
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 20.0 kB of archives.
After this operation, 45.1 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Get:1 https://deb.qubes-os.org/r4.2/vm bookworm/main amd64 qubes-core-agent-passwordless-root amd64 4.2.36-1+deb12u1 [20.0 kB]
Fetched 20.0 kB in 0s (61.3 kB/s)
perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
LANGUAGE = (unset),
LC_ALL = (unset),
LANG = "en_US.UTF-8"
are supported and installed on your system.
perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
Selecting previously unselected package qubes-core-agent-passwordless-root.
(Reading database ... 20852 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../qubes-core-agent-passwordless-root_4.2.36-1+deb12u1_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking qubes-core-agent-passwordless-root (4.2.36-1+deb12u1) ...
Setting up qubes-core-agent-passwordless-root (4.2.36-1+deb12u1) ...
locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
root@vr-aqt-dl12-00:~#
Can they be ignored safely - or - what needs to be done to resolve them ?
Thanks in advance for any feedback & suggestions !
Maybe just update won’t fix this and you need a fresh template.
You can try to reinstall the template so the latest template version will be installed.
Try running this on the templates derived from debian-12-minimal:
I did - but - was NOT successful …
Based on your feedback I changed your commands from ‘en_US’ to ‘de_DE’ - but - Qubes OS / APT still reports the same / similar issues:
root@vr-aqt-dl12-00:~#
root@vr-aqt-dl12-00:~# apt autoremove
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
python3-daemon python3-lockfile
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 2 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
After this operation, 156 kB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
LANGUAGE = (unset),
LC_ALL = (unset),
LANG = "en_US.UTF-8"
are supported and installed on your system.
perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
(Reading database ... 20860 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing python3-daemon (2.3.2-1) ...
Removing python3-lockfile (1:0.12.2-2.2) ...
root@vr-aqt-dl12-00:~#
Have you tried sudo /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure locales in the template?
No, I have not …
@ALL : Does anyone have a recommendation on where to start investigating / reading on this topic - other - than the GitHub issue already mentioned earlier ? - I feel ~ lost ~ …
I feel like this should have worked for you, as it does work for me to resolve this same issue. Maybe try it again? Clone debian-12-minimal, run those commands in the new template, reboot it (why not), and then try some apt stuff to see if you get the same apt warnings.
Ok, so you uncomment a line specifying a LOCALE in /etc/locale.gen … that LOCALE should be set to whatever system locale you have, not blindly to en_US.UTF-8.
On the other hand, keeping en_US.UTF-8 reduces the fingerprinting surface.
But all in all, looking at the warning message, perl is falling back to LC_ALL=C which is a sane default. Maybe the best thing would be to set this manually.
I feel like this should have worked for you, as it does work for me to resolve this same issue. Maybe try it again? Clone debian-12-minimal, run those commands in the new template, reboot it (why not), and then try some apt stuff to see if you get the same apt warnings.
I re-did it once more & used your exact commands, i.e. ‘en_US …’ and not ‘de_DE …’ as in my first attempt. - Now the warnings are gone !
I still do not understand why ~ american ~ locales are required & WHY the previous attempt with ~ german ~ locales failed.
That’s why I asked for additional material to read & stated that I feel ‘lost’
But all in all, looking at the warning message, perl is falling back to LC_ALL=C which is a sane default. Maybe the best thing would be to set this manually.
Can you share any link to relevant documentation ? - TIA !
Was replying to @Euwiiwueir 's post. Or thinking aloud and commenting on it.
I don’t have a link to any documentation to support the assertion that “defaulting to LC_ALL=C is a sane default/fallback”, but you can search the Internet too.
I don’t understand either. I would have expected de_DE.UTF-8 UTF-8 to work too, I’m surprised it didn’t. I think all that those apt/perl warnings are saying is that the system has no locales enabled+built, and that’s unusual (but normal in debian-12-minimal, at least at present), so maybe you should explicitly enable+build a locale even if it’s just C.UTF-8 UTF-8.
