Update through GUI never finishing - how to see logs?

Trying to update Fedora (but did the same thing for Debian and also never made any progress after hours, had to kill the update and now that Debian template doesn’t start):
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Is there any way to show some logs to see why is it stuck?

I should add that this is after upgrading Qubes to 4.1

Fedora-33 is a very old template, Fedora-37 is current.

I don’t know if you can use the updater on templates which have reached the end of their lifecycle.

edited

Yes, but the same thing happening with most recent debian-11 and fedora-37, just tried.

Is there a way to check logs (I can open terminal to the vm doing the update). Where are the logs? which command?