Hello,
I recently posted a HCL report for my Tuxedo Book XP14 Gen 12 and made a brief mention of usb connection issues.
As I cannot find any other posts remotely similar to the issues I have I assume this is a hardware compatibility issue.
I cannot report the following issues with my computer:
sys-usb will sometimes not automatically load on boot
various disk partition formats will not appear in the files app, but will sometimes appear in the disks app
one usb stick that was connected became corrupt and could only be used again after reformatting
Interestingly when I format a flash drive or external ssd with the linux disks app it will never show up in the files app when I connect it via sys-usb, I need to use the disk utility app in Mac OS for this to work.
I am keen to update to the new rc2 release, hoping that this bug might have already been fixed, but it has not shown up in my qubes update list yet.
“I cannot report” above should read… I can report
I will not appear in the updates. It will not be a simple update, but an upgrade . Here is how to do it: How to upgrade to Qubes 4.1 | Qubes OS . Note that RC2 is not a stable version yet.
opened 09:51PM - 05 Aug 21 UTC
closed 02:59AM - 29 Sep 22 UTC
T: bug
C: Xen
P: major
r4.1-buster-stable
hardware support
C: usb proxy
r4.1-bullseye-stable
r4.1-dom0-stable
diagnosed
pr submitted
r4.1-centos-stream8-stable
r4.1-bookworm-stable
affects-4.1
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### Qubes OS version
R4.1beta
/etc/qubes-release: Qubes release 4.1 (R4.1)
### Names and locations of enabled [testing](https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/testing/) repos
### Names of affected [testing](https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/testing/) repo packages
### Affected component(s) or functionality
sys-usb, mouse
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### Brief summary
This appears to be a race condition. It does not happen all the time.
1. Install Qubes 4.1 (Qubes-R4.1.0-beta1-x86_64.iso).
2. During the install, I deselect Whonix (don’t need it for my use model) and I toggle sys-firewall and sys-usb to NOT be disposible. (For my needs, I customize sys-usb.)
3. Reboot. sys-usb does not consistently start up.
4. Open Qube Manager. Select settings for sys-usb, toggle start on boot (was checked, uncheck it, then recheck it). Click “Apply” and “OK”. From this point on, sys-usb appears to start properly during boot.
The results that I see:
Most of the time (about 80%), sys-usb starts properly.
About 15% of the time, sys-usb appears to be running, but the mouse (touch pad on laptop) does not respond. Using keystrokes, I can get to the shutdown menu and reboot the system.
About 5% of the time, even the keyboard doesn't work. In this case, plugging in USB devices does not even trigger any notification messages. It appears that sys-usb failed to start -- or it started, but failed to acquire the usb bus.
One time, I had no keyboard or mouse. After about 30 seconds of sitting idle, I saw a bunch of notifications as every USB bus and device was recognized. But the keyboard and mouse were still dead.
The laptop is a Dell 5550.
Other people have reported the same problem:
https://forum.qubes-os.org/t/sys-usb-not-starting-at-boot/5336/3
https://forum.qubes-os.org/t/sys-usb-not-starting-at-boot/5336/7
To me, this looks like a race condition. sys-usb is not starting up with the hardware is ready, or is not accepting hardware if it appears during the startup.
### How reproducible
For me, it's happening about 20% of the time.
### Steps to reproduce
See bug description.
### Expected behavior
sys-usb should start up every time. Keyboard and mouse should always work.
### Actual behavior
See bug description.
### Solutions you've tried
Tried disposible and non-disposible USB.
R4.0 on the same laptop has no problems. (Never saw this issue.) It's only in R4.1.
### Additional context
The most frustrating part is that it is not easily reproducable. It really acts like a startup race condition.
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### Relevant [documentation](https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/) you've consulted
Discussions on the forums: https://forum.qubes-os.org/t/sys-usb-not-starting-at-boot/5336
### Related, [non-duplicate](https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/issue-tracking/#new-issues-should-not-be-duplicates-of-existing-issues) issues
The forum has a report about PCI devices not starting up at boot:
https://forum.qubes-os.org/t/after-logging-in-complete-black-screen-in-4-1/5210
If it's a race condition with PCI devices, then it could impact mouse, keyboard, and screen.
Thanks for that @fsflover , I missed it github thread.
As I am already running Qubes 4.1 my understanding from the documentaion is that it would be standard Qubes update?
Yes, when it’s fixed, a simple update should help on 4.1.