2: Keep in mind that Qubes can’t utilize the latest GPUs, getting an RTX 40xx can be a massive waste of money.
Get a motherboard that is confirmed to be working, use the HCL.
Yes, I believe all modern Intel CPUs can run Qubes.
I’m using the MSI Z690 with an Intel 12900K and the GTX1060, I would need to pay +$1000 for an RTX4070 and a used 1060 is $100
Yea tbh I don’t even play games so a rtx 30xx/40xx is a huge waste of money, I’ll just grab an used gtx10xx as you suggested, and perhaps upgrade it in the future.
I’m concerned about two things:
the links provided by @fsflover, since I already decided I need the latest gen13 (i9-13900K), I cannot throw away $650 of cpu in case Qubes doesn’t like it
but honestly I wonder what issues could arise, afterall the i9-13900k has ALL the security features qubes wants…
I need a very new motherboard to be able to use ddr5 RAM, I doubt the HCL list has fresh motherboards on it… is the risk of incompatibility high with the motherboard?
There is very little difference between 12th and 13th Gen, I personally wouldn’t be worried about the CPU.
Dasharo might be adding Raptor Lake S support to the Z690, the CPUs are so similar that support can be added though the firmware support package.
If you are looking for one of the new motherboards, use the HCL to find something that worked with 12th gen. There is no guarantee that the next gen will work, but if the Z690 worked, there is a decent chance that the Z790 is going to work. I don’t think the next gen motherboards are going to have a lot of new tech, support for the new intel CPUs and DDR5 was added in the last gen.
You can always try to arrange with the seller that you can return the motherboard for a replacement if it doesn’t work, it’s normally not an issue if you ask for it before you buy.
@renehoj First of all, thank you immensely , your inputs are literally more than the whole documentation is providing me on the latest gen gear.
So, I’ma go for the 13 gen Intel, now all that remains is to decide the motherboard and gpu.
For the GPU I think I’ll go on the 1060 or another one on 10xx series, at least for now.
As for the motherboard, they’re pretty much the same, quote: “There aren’t a lot of differences between the two motherboards. Apart from the reallocated PCIe lanes and a bit higher DDR5 memory clock speed, everything remains the same In Z690 & Z790.”
Would you say there’s could be some risk of Qubes not working depending if I use ddr5 vs ddr4 attached to Z690/790?
Cuz I’m either going for z690 + ddr4 or z790 + ddr5…
I’m slightly confused/worried about the Dasharo firmware thing, do I need to install it on the motherboard, is that mandatory? plus is that severely hard to accomplish? what’s wrong with the default msi firmware?
OK, sorry last question, you mention in the HCL list that you have “MSI PRO Z690-A DDR4”, but in your post here MSI Pro Z690-A WiFi DDR4 with Alder Lake 12900K you say in the title you have “MSI PRO Z690-A Wifi DDR4”, please note these are actually two different versions, what’s written on the box?
I hope I’m not too late with this but I had all sorts of weird issues with GT730 and it all went away once I switched to AMD RX6400 (the simplest AMD GPU I could find). It wasn’t hardware issues as the GT730 was tested ok on windows.
It was my understanding that AMD GPU is more “friendly” to Qubes (or even Linux in general) than NVIDIA, because of drivers and sorts, so I took a leap of faith, put my money on AMD GPU and presto! no more graphics issues.
Hope this helps.
Thanks but I already got an used GTX 1060, since I do not game, and mostly because it’s the same as renehoj from which I’m basing my build (out of fear of it non being compatible with qubes at the end).
@renehoj btw, I’m almost done getting the parts, but I have one question remaining, in the qubes HCL list you state this in the notes in regards to the default motherboard firmware (v1.10): "needs legacy boot, integrated gfx doesn’t work ", does that mean if I set legacy boot Qubes still wont work?
Ok great to hear. Sadly atm dasharo doesn’t have support for CPU gen13, so I cannot use that atm, but we’ll see.
I have the gtx 1060 just as you, so I hope if I enable legacy mode it’ll work for me as well x)