Short list of laptops/desktops that work well with Qubes OS

Yes, I did read through the requirements before posting, and the Framework (11th gen at least, since that’s what I can speak for directly) requires only one thing to meet them all in Qubes OS 4.2: the kernel argument mem_sleep_default=deep in order to enable S3 sleep (but I think that every laptop requires that for S3 sleep, so that’s not a workaround, right?),

To make everything work in 4.1 correctly, it needs the above mentioned kernel argument, but also a later kernel than shipped with the original 4.1 ISO for both Xen and Linux (something from the last year). Again, I don’t think that’s a workaround since every recent computer has the same requirement, and the kernels update in Qubes OS automatically. The only potential problem is if the original Qubes 4.1 ISO is used to install from more than a year ago and then one would need to update to kernel latest (or something newer than the disc) in order to get the AX210 wifi to operate correctly in order to get the updates.

  • Install for both 4.1 and 4.2 proceeds without workarounds (and 4.2 doesn’t even require a newer kernel)
  • Graphics, audio, and suspend work perfectly with the kernel argument (and 4.2 doesn’t need a newer kernel)
  • RAM slots are not soldered and can host as much RAM as 64GB
  • No ps/2 port, but that’s not required for laptops on the list, I believe.
  • Readily available for purchase and growing in popularity
  • I am happy to work with any community members to confirm things, as needed. I don’t have experience with the latest generation of Framework (13th Gen), but all the hardware is identical except the mainboard chipset and CPU, and so I do know almost everything should work. The latest HCL report for the 13th gen seems to say the same. Everything works as long as the kernel argument for deep sleep is added (Framework Laptop 13th Gen, Intel - #3 by b34)

I am just trying to honestly help and contribute to a project I value and care about, and I really think the Framework series presents one of the best Qubes OS options that exists at this time for latest hardware and nice design and upgradability. Plus it seems a number of forum members use it so there would be at least some support for new users to be had, and that’s always helpful too.

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