[qubes-users] What is the latest version of Qubes (on 23 February 2021)

Hi everyone,

I know about ‘Qubes Release 4.0.3’ and ‘****Qubes Release 4.0.4-rc2’, but I don’t understand what is the version I have.

I am getting this result already 8 month and nothing changes when I am trying to update Dom0:
$ sudo qubes-dom0-update
Using sys-firewall as UpdateVM to download updates for Dom0; this may take some time…
Fedora 25 - x86_64 - Updates 5.8 MB/s | 24 MB 00:04
Fedora 25 - x86_64 8.3 MB/s | 50 MB 00:06
determining the fastest mirror (15 hosts)… done.-- B/s | 0 B --:-- ETA
Qubes Templates repository 3.5 kB/s | 5.6 kB 00:01
Last metadata expiration check: 0:00:01 ago on Tue Feb 23 14:49:03 2021.
Dependencies resolved.
Nothing to do.
Complete!
No packages downloaded
Qubes OS Repository for Dom0 25 MB/s | 26 kB 00:00

In Qubes Manager >> About >> Qubes OS
I see 'Qubes release 4.0 (R4.0)

When I am clicking on Version Information I see this:

xen_version : 4.8.5
Linux 4.19.15-1.pvops.qubes.x86_64

Installed Packages:

kernel-qubes-vm.x86_64 1000:4.14.74-1.pvops.qubes
kernel-qubes-vm.x86_64 1000:4.19.15-1.pvops.qubes
python2-qubesadmin.noarch 4.0.25-0.1.fc25
python2-qubesimgconverter.x86_64 4.0.23-1.fc25
python3-qubesadmin.noarch 4.0.25-0.1.fc25
python3-qubesdb.x86_64 4.0.10-1.fc25
python3-qubesimgconverter.x86_64 4.0.23-1.fc25
qubes-anaconda-addon.noarch 4.0.9-1.fc25
qubes-artwork.noarch 4.0.1-2.fc25
qubes-core-admin-addon-whonix.noarch 4.0.2-1.fc25
qubes-core-admin-client.noarch 4.0.25-0.1.fc25
qubes-core-dom0.x86_64 4.0.41-1.fc25
qubes-core-dom0-linux.x86_64 4.0.18-1.fc25
qubes-core-dom0-linux-kernel-install.x86_64
qubes-db.x86_64 4.0.10-1.fc25
qubes-db-dom0.x86_64 4.0.10-1.fc25
qubes-db-libs.x86_64 4.0.10-1.fc25
qubes-desktop-linux-common.noarch 4.0.17-1.fc25
qubes-desktop-linux-manager.noarch 4.0.15-1.fc25
qubes-gpg-split-dom0.x86_64 2.0.35-1.fc25
qubes-gui-dom0.x86_64 4.0.9-1.fc25
qubes-img-converter-dom0.x86_64 1.2.6-1.fc25
qubes-input-proxy.x86_64 1.0.14-1.fc25
qubes-libvchan-xen.x86_64 4.0.5-1.fc25
qubes-manager.noarch 4.0.28-1.fc25
qubes-menus.noarch 4.0.17-1.fc25
qubes-mgmt-salt.noarch 4.0.15-1.fc25
qubes-mgmt-salt-admin-tools.noarch 4.0.15-1.fc25
qubes-mgmt-salt-base.noarch 4.0.3-1.fc25
qubes-mgmt-salt-base-config.noarch 4.0.1-1.fc25
qubes-mgmt-salt-base-overrides.noarch 4.0.2-1.fc25
qubes-mgmt-salt-base-overrides-libs.noarch
qubes-mgmt-salt-base-topd.noarch 4.0.1-1.fc25
qubes-mgmt-salt-config.noarch 4.0.15-1.fc25
qubes-mgmt-salt-dom0.noarch 4.0.15-1.fc25
qubes-mgmt-salt-dom0-qvm.noarch 4.0.7-1.fc25
qubes-mgmt-salt-dom0-update.noarch 4.0.6-1.fc25
qubes-mgmt-salt-dom0-virtual-machines.noarch
qubes-pdf-converter-dom0.x86_64 2.1.6-1.fc25
qubes-release.noarch 4.0-7
qubes-release-notes.noarch 4.0-7
qubes-template-debian-10.noarch 4.0.1-201910230150
qubes-template-debian-10-minimal.noarch
qubes-template-debian-9.noarch 4.0.1-201812091508
qubes-template-fedora-29.noarch 4.0.1-201812180316
qubes-template-fedora-30.noarch 4.0.1-201904301131
qubes-template-whonix-gw-14.noarch 4.0.1-201811291216
qubes-template-whonix-ws-14.noarch 4.0.1-201811291216
qubes-usb-proxy-dom0.noarch 1.0.20-1.fc25
qubes-utils.x86_64 4.0.23-1.fc25
qubes-utils-libs.x86_64 4.0.23-1.fc25
qubes-windows-tools.noarch 4.0.1-3
xfce4-settings-qubes.x86_64 4.0.3-1.fc25

So could anybody tell me is this the latest version of Qubes OS or something happened with my update process?

Thank you!

I am not sure because I have testing and unstable repositories enabled
but according to Index of /r4.0/current/dom0/fc25/rpm/ I
would say that you have some packages outdated.

I don't think it helps but you could try:
"sudo qubes-dom0-update --refresh"

вторник, 23 февраля 2021 г. в 15:48:59 UTC+3, donoban:

I know about *'Qubes Release 4.0.3'* and *'**Qubes Release 4.0.4-rc2'*,
but I don't understand what is the version I have.

your "initial" qubes release is marked in the file /etc/qubes-release

/kernel-qubes-vm.x86_64 1000:4.14.74-1.pvops.qubes
kernel-qubes-vm.x86_64 1000:4.19.15-1.pvops.qubes

these are outdated kernels. The stable kernels should be 5.x now, and if
they are 4.x it is certainly 4.19.(>150). I infer from this that
something is weird. Distinguish xen-kernel (package "kernel.x86_64") and
AppVM kernels containing "qubes-vm" it their name. They are different.

*So could anybody tell me is this the latest version of Qubes OS or
something happened with my update process?*

did you run as donoban suggested the update command
     "sudo qubes-dom0-update --refresh"
inside a dom0-terminal ?

вторник, 23 февраля 2021 г. в 18:45:47 UTC+3, haa...@web.de:

your “initial” qubes release is marked in the file /etc/qubes-release

I opened the file /etc/qubes-release and saw this:
Qubes release 4.0 (R4.0)

did you run as donoban suggested the update command
“sudo qubes-dom0-update --refresh”
inside a dom0-terminal ?

Yes, I tried but result has been the same.

The packages you mentioned are all pretty dated.

Actually I had a similar issue a few months back when I noticed that Qubes OS wasn't updating anymore.

I was using a non-standard update VM though. Going back to the standard update VM (sys-fw) fixed it for me.

I recall that there was a similar bug on github for updating over VPN or sys-whonix at the time, but I cannot find it anymore.

You might also want to try a different template for the update VM (e.g. Fedora, if you're running Debian).

вторник, 23 февраля 2021 г. в 21:56:03 UTC+3, David Hobach:

The packages you mentioned are all pretty dated.

Actually I had a similar issue a few months back when I noticed that Qubes OS wasn’t updating anymore.

I was using a non-standard update VM though. Going back to the standard update VM (sys-fw) fixed it for me.

I recall that there was a similar bug on github for updating over VPN or sys-whonix at the time, but I cannot find it anymore.

You might also want to try a different template for the update VM (e.g. Fedora, if you’re running Debian).

Thank you for you answer.

Actually I did not change default Dom0 UpdateVM in the past.

But anyway I tried 3 different ways with ‘sys-net’, ‘sys-firewall’ and ‘sys-whonix’:

[user@dom0 ~]$ sudo qubes-dom0-update
Using sys-whonix as UpdateVM to download updates for Dom0; this may take some time…
No new updates available
Qubes OS Repository for Dom0 25 MB/s | 26 kB 00:00

[user@dom0 ~]$ sudo qubes-dom0-update
Using sys-net as UpdateVM to download updates for Dom0; this may take some time…
Fedora 25 - x86_64 - Updates 7.7 MB/s | 24 MB 00:03
Fedora 25 - x86_64 4.6 MB/s | 50 MB 00:11
determining the fastest mirror (15 hosts)… done.-- B/s | 0 B --:-- ETA
Qubes Templates repository 2.1 kB/s | 5.6 kB 00:02
Last metadata expiration check: 0:00:01 ago on Tue Feb 23 22:22:50 2021.
Dependencies resolved.
Nothing to do.
Complete!
No packages downloaded
Qubes OS Repository for Dom0 25 MB/s | 26 kB 00:00

[user@dom0 ~]$ sudo qubes-dom0-update
Using sys-firewall as UpdateVM to download updates for Dom0; this may take some time…
Last metadata expiration check: 3:05:31 ago on Tue Feb 23 19:17:49 2021.
Dependencies resolved.
Nothing to do.
Complete!
No packages downloaded
Qubes OS Repository for Dom0 25 MB/s | 26 kB 00:00

Hi everyone,

I know about *'Qubes Release 4.0.3'* and *'**Qubes Release 4.0.4-rc2'*, but I don't understand what is the version I have.

I am getting this result already 8 month and nothing changes when I am trying to update Dom0:
/$ sudo qubes-dom0-update
Using sys-firewall as UpdateVM to download updates for Dom0; this may take some time...
Fedora 25 - x86_64 - Updates 5.8 MB/s | 24 MB 00:04
Fedora 25 - x86_64 8.3 MB/s | 50 MB 00:06
determining the fastest mirror (15 hosts).. done.-- B/s | 0 B --:-- ETA
Qubes Templates repository 3.5 kB/s | 5.6 kB 00:01
Last metadata expiration check: 0:00:01 ago on Tue Feb 23 14:49:03 2021.
Dependencies resolved.
Nothing to do.
Complete!
No packages downloaded
Qubes OS Repository for Dom0 25 MB/s | 26 kB 00:00

/_In Qubes Manager >> About >> Qubes OS
I see 'Qubes release 4.0 (R4.0)_

*When I am clicking on Version Information I see this:*

/xen_version : 4.8.5
Linux 4.19.15-1.pvops.qubes.x86_64

Installed Packages: /

Maybe try "rpm -qa --last |less" to see your latest update.
Mine is:
qubes-core-dom0-4.0.57-1.fc25.x86_64 Sat 13 Mar 2021 06:44:38 PM CET

суббота, 13 марта 2021 г. в 21:04:40 UTC+3, Ulrich Windl:

Maybe try “rpm -qa --last |less” to see your latest update.
Mine is:
qubes-core-dom0-4.0.57-1.fc25.x86_64 Sat 13 Mar 2021 06:44:38
PM CET

Thank you for your help. I tried this command “rpm -qa --last |less” and got this results:

qubes-template-whonix-gw-15-4.0.6-202012170920.noarch Mon 22 Feb 2021 08:50:12
qubes-template-whonix-ws-15-4.0.6-202012170920.noarch Mon 22 Feb 2021 08:47:21
qubes-template-fedora-32-4.0.6-202011030518.noarch Mon 22 Feb 2021 07:31:19
scrot-0.8-14.fc24.x86_64 Thu 08 Oct 2020 10:07:29
imlib2-1.4.9-1.fc25.x86_64 Thu 08 Oct 2020 10:07:29
giflib-4.1.6-15.fc24.x86_64 Thu 08 Oct 2020 10:07:29
giblib-1.2.4-24.fc24.x86_64 Thu 08 Oct 2020 10:07:29
powertop-2.8-3.fc25.x86_64 Mon 08 Jun 2020 01:52:43
qubes-template-debian-10-minimal-4.0.1-201910110047.noarch Tue 18 Feb 2020 06:20:46
qubes-template-debian-10-4.0.1-201910230150.noarch Mon 16 Dec 2019 03:29:11
qubes-windows-tools-4.0.1-3.noarch Tue 23 Apr 2019 01:33:50
qubes-img-converter-dom0-1.2.6-1.fc25.x86_64 Mon 08 Apr 2019 09:30:31
qubes-pdf-converter-dom0-2.1.6-1.fc25.x86_64 Mon 08 Apr 2019 09:30:19
qubes-mgmt-salt-dom0-qvm-4.0.7-1.fc25.noarch Mon 08 Apr 2019 09:30:19
qubes-input-proxy-1.0.14-1.fc25.x86_64 Tue 19 Mar 2019 11:20:46
qubes-gpg-split-dom0-2.0.35-1.fc25.x86_64 Tue 19 Mar 2019 11:20:46
qubes-usb-proxy-dom0-1.0.20-1.fc25.noarch Tue 19 Mar 2019 11:20:35
qubes-mgmt-salt-base-topd-4.0.1-1.fc25.noarch Tue 19 Mar 2019 11:20:35

So, you can see, that before I downloaded the latest Whonix templates versions - my latest updates was been in October 2020. I think this is not okay :frowning:

Could you share your '/etc/yum.repos.d/qubes-dom0.repo',
the [qubes-dom0-current] entry.

Mine looks:

[qubes-dom0-current]
name = Qubes Dom0 Repository (updates)
#baseurl = https://yum.qubes-os.org/r$releasever/current/dom0/fc25
#baseurl =
http://yum.qubesosfasa4zl44o4tws22di6kepyzfeqv3tg4e3ztknltfxqrymdad.onion/r$releasever/current/dom0/fc25
metalink =
https://yum.qubes-os.org/r$releasever/current/dom0/fc25/repodata/repomd.xml.metalink
enabled = 1
metadata_expire = 7d
gpgcheck = 1
gpgkey = file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-qubes-$releasever-primary

суббота, 13 марта 2021 г. в 23:51:46 UTC+3, donoban:

Could you share your ‘/etc/yum.repos.d/qubes-dom0.repo’,
the [qubes-dom0-current] entry.

Mine looks:

[qubes-dom0-current]
name = Qubes Dom0 Repository (updates)
#baseurl = https://yum.qubes-os.org/r$releasever/current/dom0/fc25
#baseurl =
http://yum.qubesosfasa4zl44o4tws22di6kepyzfeqv3tg4e3ztknltfxqrymdad.onion/r$releasever/current/dom0/fc25
metalink =
https://yum.qubes-os.org/r$releasever/current/dom0/fc25/repodata/repomd.xml.metalink
enabled = 1
metadata_expire = 7d
gpgcheck = 1
gpgkey = file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-qubes-$releasever-primary

Thank you for your help.

Mine looks:

[qubes-dom0-current]
name = Qubes Dom0 Repository (updates)
#baseurl = https://yum.qubes-os.org/r$releasever/current/dom0/fc25
#baseurl = http://yum.sik5nlgfc5qylnnsr57qrbm64zbdx6t4lreyhpon3ychmxmiem7tioad.onion/r$releasever/current/dom0/fc25
metalink = https://yum.qubes-os.org/r$releasever/current/dom0/fc25/repodata/repomd.xml.metalink
enabled = 0
metadata_expire = 7d
gpgcheck = 1
gpgkey = file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-qubes-$releasever-primary

[qubes-dom0-current-testing]
name = Qubes Dom0 Repository (updates-testing)
#baseurl = https://yum.qubes-os.org/r$releasever/current-testing/dom0/fc25
#baseurl = http://yum.sik5nlgfc5qylnnsr57qrbm64zbdx6t4lreyhpon3ychmxmiem7tioad.onion/r$releasever/current-testing/dom0/fc25
metalink = https://yum.qubes-os.org/r$releasever/current-testing/dom0/fc25/repodata/repomd.xml.metalink
enabled = 0
metadata_expire = 7d
gpgcheck = 1
gpgkey = file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-qubes-$releasever-primary

[qubes-dom0-security-testing]
name = Qubes Dom0 Repository (security-testing)
#baseurl = https://yum.qubes-os.org/r$releasever/security-testing/dom0/fc25
#baseurl = http://yum.sik5nlgfc5qylnnsr57qrbm64zbdx6t4lreyhpon3ychmxmiem7tioad.onion/r$releasever/security-testing/dom0/fc25
metalink = https://yum.qubes-os.org/r$releasever/security-testing/dom0/fc25/repodata/repomd.xml.metalink
enabled = 0
metadata_expire = 7d
gpgcheck = 1
gpgkey = file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-qubes-$releasever-primary

[qubes-dom0-unstable]
name = Qubes Dom0 Repository (unstable)
#baseurl = https://yum.qubes-os.org/r$releasever/unstable/dom0/fc25
#baseurl = http://yum.sik5nlgfc5qylnnsr57qrbm64zbdx6t4lreyhpon3ychmxmiem7tioad.onion/r$releasever/unstable/dom0/fc25
metalink = https://yum.qubes-os.org/r$releasever/unstable/dom0/fc25/repodata/repomd.xml.metalink
enabled = 0

Is it disabled? Try replacing "enabled = 1" and update again.

Is it disabled? Try replacing “enabled = 1” and update again.

It was helpful. Thank you very much. now i updated my Dom0!

On 3/16/21 8:02 PM, load...@gmail.com wrote:> It was helpful. Thank you
very much. now i updated my Dom0!

That's great but you should guess how did you get it disabled. Maybe
'qubes-dom0-update' should warn about it.

That’s great but you should guess how did you get it disabled. Maybe
‘qubes-dom0-update’ should warn about it.

Actually I don’t know why and how it happened.

The only commands which I am using often in Dom0 terminal for update/download templates/copy-paste files from Dom0. I definitely did not change any config files after my last successful update (I even don’t remember did I change any config in Dom0).

Maybe you changed updates configuration with 'Qubes Global Settings'?

Other options are:
1) Some Qubes update disabled it, nearly impossible, any users would
reported same problem.
2) Your dom0 is compromised, also very difficult with common Qubes usage.

суббота, 13 марта 2021 г. в 21:04:40 UTC+3, Ulrich Windl:

     >
    Maybe try "rpm -qa --last |less" to see your latest update.
    Mine is:
    qubes-core-dom0-4.0.57-1.fc25.x86_64 Sat 13 Mar 2021 06:44:38
    PM CET

Thank you for your help. I tried this command "rpm -qa --last |less" and got this results:

qubes-template-whonix-gw-15-4.0.6-202012170920.noarch Mon 22 Feb 2021 08:50:12
qubes-template-whonix-ws-15-4.0.6-202012170920.noarch Mon 22 Feb 2021 08:47:21
qubes-template-fedora-32-4.0.6-202011030518.noarch Mon 22 Feb 2021 07:31:19
scrot-0.8-14.fc24.x86_64 Thu 08 Oct 2020 10:07:29
imlib2-1.4.9-1.fc25.x86_64 Thu 08 Oct 2020 10:07:29
giflib-4.1.6-15.fc24.x86_64 Thu 08 Oct 2020 10:07:29
giblib-1.2.4-24.fc24.x86_64 Thu 08 Oct 2020 10:07:29
powertop-2.8-3.fc25.x86_64 Mon 08 Jun 2020 01:52:43
qubes-template-debian-10-minimal-4.0.1-201910110047.noarch Tue 18 Feb 2020 06:20:46
qubes-template-debian-10-4.0.1-201910230150.noarch Mon 16 Dec 2019 03:29:11
qubes-windows-tools-4.0.1-3.noarch Tue 23 Apr 2019 01:33:50
qubes-img-converter-dom0-1.2.6-1.fc25.x86_64 Mon 08 Apr 2019 09:30:31
qubes-pdf-converter-dom0-2.1.6-1.fc25.x86_64 Mon 08 Apr 2019 09:30:19
qubes-mgmt-salt-dom0-qvm-4.0.7-1.fc25.noarch Mon 08 Apr 2019 09:30:19
qubes-input-proxy-1.0.14-1.fc25.x86_64 Tue 19 Mar 2019 11:20:46
qubes-gpg-split-dom0-2.0.35-1.fc25.x86_64 Tue 19 Mar 2019 11:20:46
qubes-usb-proxy-dom0-1.0.20-1.fc25.noarch Tue 19 Mar 2019 11:20:35
qubes-mgmt-salt-base-topd-4.0.1-1.fc25.noarch Tue 19 Mar 2019 11:20:35

So, you can see, that before I downloaded the latest Whonix templates versions - my latest updates was been in October 2020. I think this is not okay :frowning:

Well actually it's not exactly what it says: For example if you updated only qubes-template-fedora-32 in November, December and January (and no other packages) it might look as if no update had been installed in between as you only see the date of the latest package. It means: This is not an update history; it's a package history.