TL;DR
Qubes team are infallible thus, granted blind trust, minions are evil lusers with bad-intentions, mustn’t think for themselves or question authoritah thus, can not be trusted.
Context
Not to “doom” the thread as you suggest because I still like to imagine that civil discourse between adults is plausible … but, if we’re to follow @adw’s logic; you’re targeting myself passive-aggressively so, here goes anyway:
0.0) For posterity’s sake, let us at least make reference to the thread prompting this “discussion” which, in your opinion illustrates “people that come in here and just s**t all over the place without contributing value”, eh?
1.0) Within this thread, I made an on-topic reply which in no way ought have been misconstrued as anything other than respectful with empathetic, supportive, positive constructive input (aside from the fact that it was posted by @cayce, jah?).
1.0.a) However, due to reasons unbeknownst to myself (Perhaps @fepitre & @adw were (as you suggest) simply having a case of the “bad days”? Or, maybe we could chalk this up to the good ol’, ever versitile, standby cop out “language barrier”?
Or, maybe, maybe they’re so hyperviligilant protective of their “baby” they’re ready to lash out at anyone who hasn’t “held” their baby?
Or, maybe, maybe, maybe someone didn’t take their meds?
Because neither has chosen to communicate effectively (as adults in conflict situations which seek resolution tend to do), we’ll never know.
) the anointed somehow chose to misinterpret because it was @cayce posting it MUST have been meant negatively.
The TWO points taken out of context were:
A)
This is an opine, KEY words = “might go a long way”
Nowhere, NO(feckin’)WAY do I state that the Qubes team doesn’t take adoption seriously as @fepitre has for some reason interpreted.
personal reflection
Although, based on these bipolar requests for community support/effort while beating the drum of “you’re not us”, “we’re superior”, “respect my authoritah”-esque tantrums I can’t honestly say that I’m not considering leaning that way.
B)
Which, is simply an observation of self-evident (as supported in detail by @adw’s response) confusion. Which is it? Community contributions are maintained by un-paid contributors on behalf of ITL and, ITL profits? Or, ITL contributes and the community profits? Both?
What’s more, it’s directly followed with:
CLEARLY advocating for ALL Qubes team (ITL & community alike), to profit.
C’mon, seriously is some alternate alphabet being displayed for some users?
- Am I right?
Content
The way I see it:
1.0) There’s two sides to each coin yet, you’d prefer to play with a two headed coin.
- Am I right?
2.0)
2.0.a) I’m pretty certain that you’re attempting & failing at directing this at myself yet, as the preceding thread and this thread clearly illustrate, posts by @adw & @fepitre are by and large examples of: “make it all about themselves”, “criticize harshly and loudly”, “complain bitterly” & ultimately rage ~and ultimately~ quit.
What’s especially quizzical is how each user seems to harp on the concept of “community” while, in this specific instance actuality only provide aggressive displays of divisive exclusivity.
3.0)
3.0.a) You’re suggesting that double-standards (continue) to be imposed such that the anointed wear the crown and their subservient minions never fail to “kiss the ring”.
- Am I right?
3.1)
3.1.a) You’re suggesting that the anointed never on theirself (antecedent serving as a prime example) and thus the “community” audience ought never present any perspective which in any way … could … possibly … ever … somehow … someway be misperceived by the anointed as a threat to the “crown” and all of the un-anointed subservient, thankless (not actually the case for myself) minions MUST display their undying blind faith and “kiss the ring” at ALL times or be placed in the forum’s pillory.
- Am I right?
3.2)
3.2.a) Surely you jest? Re: contributions, to date (in just over four month’s active time), I’ve accrued:
- Given 351 Likes
- Received 126 Likes
- Provided 13 Solutions
(quite a few others either not assigned and/or privately) - IIRC, I even assisted yourself directly once (successfully) or twice (unknown), no?
Delivered:
- Created shared several helpful projects to address common challenges other forums users have faced but no one else stepped up to deliver
Drafted:
Roughly 30 additional on-deck problem-solving solutions which, I’m sharing privately until I can somehow find a way to put some faith into the concept of “community” here
Despite the abundance of persistently baseless attacks, ridicule, shaming, disrespect, threats of doxxing, threats of personal acts of violence, etc. etc. etc. etc.
I guess one can only dream of what might be achieved if said individual hadn’t the burden of 'splaining in snowflake-song so often.
/me “¯_ (ツ)_/¯”
In the illustrious words of @snoopdogg, “Patriarchy sure do be MF sometimes …”
Much thanks & blessings
for the gift
of this migraine
!