fish
March 24, 2026, 2:50pm
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Found this interesting thread: https://forum.qubes-os.org/t/alpine-linux-template-non-official-available-for-testing/
After reading through it, here’s my rough plan:
Try using the patches from forge/qports: Packages for Alpine Linux template for QubesOS. See https://ayakael.net/forge/qubes-builder-alpine for template image. - Ayakael: My personal forge to build .deb packages and test core Qubes components (like qubes-core-agent-networking) in a Devuan HVM setup.
If that works, move forward with building a full Devuan-based template and testing various features.
Finalize the template build.
But my main uncertainty is
I’m fairly new to this, and I know this is a challenging undertaking. But I find it really interesting, and I think it could succeed—with help and guidance from everyone here. Any advice would mean a lot
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Excercise:
download a minimal debian or fedora template
use the package manager to query files owned by a package (Fedora is better on that as it enfoces %files), or on debian, find packages that might contain “qubes” string (might be incomplete, imperfect)
Example (not on a minimal system):
% fd qubes /etc/systemd /usr/lib/systemd
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/qubes-apt-cacher-ng-repo.service
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/qubes-firewall.service
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/qubes-gui-agent.service
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/qubes-meminfo-writer.service
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/qubes-misc-post.service
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/qubes-mount-dirs.service
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/qubes-network-uplink.service
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/qubes-network.service
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/qubes-qrexec-agent.service
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/qubes-rootfs-resize.service
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/qubes-rsync-forwarder.socket
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/qubes-sync-time.timer
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/qubes-update-check.timer
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/qubes-updates-proxy-forwarder.socket
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/qubes-updates-proxy.service
/etc/systemd/system/network-pre.target.requires/qubes-antispoof.service
/etc/systemd/system/network-pre.target.requires/qubes-iptables.service
/etc/systemd/system/qubes-core-agent.service
/etc/systemd/system/sysinit.target.wants/qubes-db.service
/etc/systemd/system/sysinit.target.wants/qubes-early-vm-config.service
/etc/systemd/system/sysinit.target.wants/qubes-sysinit.service
/usr/lib/systemd/network/80-qubes-vif.link
/usr/lib/systemd/system/ModemManager.service.d/30_qubes.conf
/usr/lib/systemd/system/NetworkManager-wait-online.service.d/30_qubes.conf
/usr/lib/systemd/system/NetworkManager.service.d/30_qubes.conf
/usr/lib/systemd/system/anacron-resume.service.d/30_qubes.conf
/usr/lib/systemd/system/anacron.service.d/30_qubes.conf
/usr/lib/systemd/system/avahi-daemon.service.d/30_qubes.conf
/usr/lib/systemd/system/boot.automount.d/30_qubes.conf
/usr/lib/systemd/system/chronyd.service.d/30_qubes.conf
/usr/lib/systemd/system/cron.service.d/30_qubes.conf
/usr/lib/systemd/system/cups-browsed.service.d/30_qubes.conf
/usr/lib/systemd/system/cups.path.d/30_qubes.conf
/usr/lib/systemd/system/cups.service.d/30_qubes.conf
/usr/lib/systemd/system/cups.socket.d/30_qubes.conf
/usr/lib/systemd/system/exim4.service.d/30_qubes.conf
/usr/lib/systemd/system/getty@tty.service.d/30_qubes.conf
/usr/lib/systemd/system/netfilter-persistent.service.d/30_qubes.conf
/usr/lib/systemd/system/org.cups.cupsd.path.d/30_qubes.conf
/usr/lib/systemd/system/org.cups.cupsd.service.d/30_qubes.conf
/usr/lib/systemd/system/org.cups.cupsd.socket.d/30_qubes.conf
/usr/lib/systemd/system/qubes-antispoof.service
/usr/lib/systemd/system/qubes-apt-cacher-ng-repo.service
/usr/lib/systemd/system/qubes-db.service
/usr/lib/systemd/system/qubes-early-vm-config.service
/usr/lib/systemd/system/qubes-firewall.service
/usr/lib/systemd/system/qubes-gui-agent.service
/usr/lib/systemd/system/qubes-iptables.service
/usr/lib/systemd/system/qubes-meminfo-writer.service
/usr/lib/systemd/system/qubes-misc-post.service
/usr/lib/systemd/system/qubes-mount-dirs.service
/usr/lib/systemd/system/qubes-network-uplink.service
/usr/lib/systemd/system/qubes-network-uplink@.service
/usr/lib/systemd/system/qubes-network.service
/usr/lib/systemd/system/qubes-print-forwarder.service
/usr/lib/systemd/system/qubes-qrexec-agent.service
/usr/lib/systemd/system/qubes-rootfs-resize.service
/usr/lib/systemd/system/qubes-rsync-forwarder.socket
/usr/lib/systemd/system/qubes-rsync-forwarder@.service
/usr/lib/systemd/system/qubes-ssh-agent-forwarder@.service
/usr/lib/systemd/system/qubes-sync-time.service
/usr/lib/systemd/system/qubes-sync-time.timer
/usr/lib/systemd/system/qubes-sysinit.service
/usr/lib/systemd/system/qubes-update-check.service
/usr/lib/systemd/system/qubes-update-check.timer
/usr/lib/systemd/system/qubes-updates-proxy-forwarder.socket
/usr/lib/systemd/system/qubes-updates-proxy-forwarder@.service
/usr/lib/systemd/system/qubes-updates-proxy.service
/usr/lib/systemd/system/serial-getty@.service.d/30_qubes.conf
/usr/lib/systemd/system/sysinit.target.d/30_qubes.conf
/usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-logind.service.d/30_qubes.conf
/usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-random-seed.service.d/30_qubes.conf
/usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-timesyncd.service.d/30_qubes.conf
/usr/lib/systemd/system/tinyproxy.service.d/30_not_needed_in_qubes_by_default.conf
/usr/lib/systemd/system/tmp.mount.d/30_qubes.conf
/usr/lib/systemd/system/tor.service.d/30_qubes.conf
/usr/lib/systemd/system/tor@default.service.d/30_qubes.conf
/usr/lib/systemd/system-preset/75-qubes-vm.preset
/usr/lib/systemd/user/evolution-addressbook-factory.service.d/30_qubes.conf
/usr/lib/systemd/user/evolution-calendar-factory.service.d/30_qubes.conf
/usr/lib/systemd/user/evolution-source-registry.service.d/30_qubes.conf
/usr/lib/systemd/user/evolution-user-prompter.service.d/30_qubes.conf
/usr/lib/systemd/user/tracker-extract-3.service.d/30_qubes.conf
/usr/lib/systemd/user/tracker-miner-fs-3.service.d/30_qubes.conf
/usr/lib/systemd/user/tracker-miner-fs-control-3.service.d/30_qubes.conf
/usr/lib/systemd/user/tracker-miner-rss-3.service.d/30_qubes.conf
/usr/lib/systemd/user/tracker-writeback-3.service.d/30_qubes.conf
/usr/lib/systemd/user/tracker-xdg-portal-3.service.d/30_qubes.conf
% dpkg -S /usr/lib/systemd/user/* 2>/dev/null | grep qubes
qubes-core-agent: /usr/lib/systemd/user/evolution-addressbook-factory.service.d
qubes-core-agent: /usr/lib/systemd/user/evolution-calendar-factory.service.d
qubes-core-agent: /usr/lib/systemd/user/evolution-source-registry.service.d
qubes-core-agent: /usr/lib/systemd/user/evolution-user-prompter.service.d
qubes-core-agent: /usr/lib/systemd/user/tracker-extract-3.service.d
qubes-core-agent: /usr/lib/systemd/user/tracker-miner-fs-3.service.d
qubes-core-agent: /usr/lib/systemd/user/tracker-miner-fs-control-3.service.d
qubes-core-agent: /usr/lib/systemd/user/tracker-miner-rss-3.service.d
qubes-core-agent: /usr/lib/systemd/user/tracker-writeback-3.service.d
qubes-core-agent: /usr/lib/systemd/user/tracker-xdg-portal-3.service.d
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gasull
March 25, 2026, 2:23am
3
Thank you for doing this! I’m looking forward to installing Devuan in my Qubes.
I’m not an expert on this, but since Devuan is a Debian derivative, looking at the debian-minimal template might be your best bet.
Please keep us updated!
fish
March 25, 2026, 8:30am
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fish
March 25, 2026, 8:32am
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Thank you for your reply,I will do my best.
: what’s the bare minimum set of Qubes packages/services needed on a Debian/Devuan base for things to work properly?
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Thanks for your reply, I will try.