Ehhh I don’t really know if the OP of that thread was being too paranoid or not, but obviously yelling at her over the Internet isn’t going to change her behavior. You’re free to disagree with anyone and hold strong opinions, but ridiculing people with memes feels quite immature and adds no value to your points. If anything, they undermine your points, so any future readers you want to genuinely consider your opinions may feel put off. And honestly it’s hard to understand what exactly you’re saying over the aggressive tone and vague references – but I only skimmed.
For a hypothetical situation, that thread sure did attract some heat.
No diggity, 
shocking how pseudo-scur’dity theatre has that effect, init?
Yup, 
happy to agree to disagree!
By taking into account the information OP provided paired with their inability to provide ANY shred of factual evidence coupled with their technically empty “I’m special” diatribe with (a bit more than) a dash of having been down the road of many a false-positive “incidents” thrown in, future readers may very well be interested in why their “story” doesn’t pass the muster.
I must have missed all the “yelling” done, mind sharing an example? Or, do you mean capitalization of single words used for emphasis?
“Pictures are worth a thousand words.” Unless accompanied by a wire transfer, any and all attempts to dictate how another wishes me to communicate knowledge for free can get kicked to the curb.
You may have interpreted what I shared as “aggressive” yet, IMO direct might be a better term to use, no? Or, maybe harsh could also be appropriate? I wonder if there’s a place in snowflake-land where direct or harsh might be an acceptable response to life threatening danger? OP would like readers to believe they are in a “life or death” situation. Ought we pull up the pampers and play patty-cake? Or, would technical measures which hypothetically might save a life make more sense? You decide. D0h! wait, @mods already did that for you/future readers!
This medium and @mods need to 
or get of the pot.
@cayce I simply tried to separate the technical advice you and @unman provided from all the unnecessary drama by ‘hiding’ the later behind a triangle one has to click to see it. This was meant as a courtesy to future readers of the web version. If I have failed in a particular instance just point it out and I’ll fix it.
As far as I am concerned you are all role playing. 
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modding notes
Understood and appreciate your efforts.
IMO, the entirety of post #18 would be directly valuable for future users trying to navigate an unknown “incident” and certainly helpful in determining if said “incident” may simply be a false-positive. If you’re hellbent on placating lazy users, I suppose hiding “There’s so much to unpack … simple technical ineptitude” makes sense but, above and below are clearly both helpful & relevant.
Pretty sure the 2nd half (after the “church lady” link/“If that’s not text book dystopian, who’s the naive one?” text) of post #23 is all directly & technically relevant (at least as long as you continue allow the presentation of the other user’s post above).
That’s cool, I think the same of @mods here. 
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No doubt you feel wounded but this does not raise the tone in any way.
@cayce has explained his position - you could review yours.
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No, I don’t. I feel sad for the world. The internet could have been the most liberating invention the world has ever seen. And in the beginning cypherpunk forums were some amazing places to hang out. The level of discussion the likes of which could rarely be found elsewhere.
Now it has spiraled to such a level of juvenility and dross, the most brilliant minds left long ago.
Our experiences have been completely different.
“In the beginning” @cayce response would have been far more typical,
I think, except for those emojis.
This issue was not a “discussion” - you raised a hypothetical case, but
quickly morphed it in to a support issue. Perhaps you felt the original
approach was necessary given your perceived situation, in which case I
do not understand why you pivoted.
I stand by my initial reply to the situation you outlined - I would not
trust that machine. If you are in the situation you report, and have no
alternative available machine, you must stop what you are doing.
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I simply request that overt malice be avoided where possible on this forum.
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yawning response to off-topic umoderated psychosis (edited)
@mods
What’s the point of splitting posts w/o the intended goal being achieved?
From my shoes, thus far your response to the dialogue YOU asked for is akin to a proud-boy who’s shot themself in their leg, makes it to the ER but, is going to bleed out because they’re refusing treatment from the staff who happen to have more melanin in their skin than he. But, that’d be his “choice” right? Which, by all means would be just peachy AFAIC.
The way I see things, you’ve a few solid options:
A) Change “it”.
(Or, at a minimum your perceptions/demands/expectations of.)
B) Leave “it”.
C) Quit whining about “it”.
Please, let’s stay civil, dispense with the nonsense, and just stay focused on Qubes and other related topics. That is the only reason people come here.
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With all due respect, this may be the intent but, hardly the reality IMO.
There is one in Preferences > Notifications > Users
Ignored
You have no ignored users.
Suppress all posts, messages, notifications, personal messages, and chat direct messages from these users.
I like popcorn, but please, use this feature. 
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I tried this when I 1st signed up, didn’t work as expected. P̶o̶s̶t̶s̶ ̶w̶e̶r̶e̶ Noise was still visible. Is this not the case for you? Ought I try again?
Edit:
I stand corrected, I had tried “Mute”! “Ignore” works a treat!
Bless your 
!
Plz, DM me a crypto addy sooz I can buy you some 
!!! Hell, might even have to tell the better-half that our next-born will be named @szz9pza !
Largely agree and restored, especially the later part of that post was useful and worth restoring.
Agreed and restored.
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To separate the drivel, ego polishing and opining into a dedicated thread that can safely be ignored by everyone uninterested in this utterly useless banter.
It does. You can mute threads, whole categories or specific people. Look and ye shall find.
I will flag some later posts and lock this thread down now. You both cool off. This is a giant waste of time (yours and everyone else’s).
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Apologies for the comment on discourse and not the matter at hand, but reading through this thread - which I have enjoyed - I didn’t find you to be attacking or being rude. Rather informative but with a strong tone of encouragement to engage in self-education at the depth beyond which a single thread and informative responses can equip you to understand and audit these issues.
I’ve also found it fairly humorous and I think maybe your style of communication is misread as aggressive by some, although obviously gaining in its force throughout.
Unfortunately this is a common theme, and really people do need to understand that if we are discussing nation-state level adversaries if you aren’t a technical-user you can perhaps gain some basic ground in understanding areas to harden, practices to improve, and topics to research, but the only way to bridge that gap is with deep study that most - including myself - are not willing to make.
@Emily I can understand your frustration if people are not meeting your complaints with the seriousness or credulity that you think they deserve, but I think it’s most productive if you keep as closely as you can to the technical questions at hand and not expound on the broader nature of your adversary and the world. This will inevitably only lessen credibility and really does nothing to move the discussion forward, irrespective of its true validity.
It’s unfortunate that the thread devolved because I enjoy reading these type of threads with input from technical users, but it seems they always tilt off track in this manner.
@Sven As it said you aren’t accepting direct messages, i’ll post here also: Your moderation efforts in threads are valuable and really help to clean them up without censoring. Thanks for your efforts in this area.
Put this all behind a drop down of something like “comment about discourse”.
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And already closed?
A post was merged into an existing topic: Level of discourse
Why is this flagged?
https://forum.qubes-os.org/t/level-of-discourse/17275/10
Okay, this forum is not antisocial media, so please stop and remove completely the “level of discourse” category.
I only want to read about Qubes here, and toxic behaviour should not be allowed. People as cayce should be blocked.