Intel vPro - What it can do, what it *can't* do, and what it means for your future hardware choices

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@dispuser

What about people who trust Intel, but are concerned they could be compelled by law to introduce backdoors?

Least they understand the trust issue even if assume “compelled” somehow.

Intel aside

Why are so many willfully ignorant that Intel = intel (US intelligence)? Wasn’t this clear last millennium in the 1990s -the BBS days? Never understood this. Sure AMD (Advanced Micro Devices spun off manufacturing operations in the form of GlobalFoundries Inc., a multibillion-dollar joint venture with Advanced Technology Investment Co., an investment company formed by the government of Abu Dhabi ) but that does not change the fact that all Intel processors made since 1995[95][96] (besides Intel Itanium and pre-2013 Intel Atom) had been subject to at least two security “flaws”.

@TommyTran732

Because under that assumption they can just backdoor everything and don’t have to target vPro.

The whole exercise of claiming Intel backdoor A, B and C then use lesser CPUs with fewer security features is counter productive. You need to have a coherent threat model.

Are you serious Tommy aka TommyTran732? WTF are you even attempting to say besides “You need to have a coherent threat model”? Here’s some simple questions @TommyTran732 do you trust Intel? Do you trust AMD? Which do you trust more, if either, why?

@de_dust2

Expecting Intel’s Minix to play nice with protocols as defined in an RFC is naive.

Thank you for your sanity @de_dust2 !

@capsizebacklog

Because if you zoom out a bit it’s actually very simple.

Oh how I wish that were so but as you say

@capsizebacklog

one of the first things you learn when you learn about trusted computing and root of trust. We have no choice but to put our trust in intel or amd

So glad Patrick is here

@adrelanos

Intel vPro, ME, AMT is of course terrible but unfortunately only scratches the surface.

@adrelanos

At any step of the software development or manufacturing process of the CPU, bugs or backdoors can be introduced (by the chip designer, the fab or anyone in the supply chain).