Insecure Default VMs

[doesqubescare]

The Default VMS are NOT good for security. Fedora is a bit better than Debian and Whonix is just piling security features onto an insecure OS. Whonix does it’s job of making a leak proof Tor based OS but for users that need options other than Tor, we need better options.

Also I tried the arch templates and Qubes seems to make arch more unstable than it already is. We truly need better options for Guest VMs. Something like GrapheneOS in the guest VMs would have been great. But doesn’t seem to be an option anymore. What are some other guest OS’ that could possibly be implemented into Qubes?

[solene]

What is your threat model that make you say it’s insecure? From there, we could suggest better suited OS for you.

[doesqubescare]

create or fork a Linux distribution for default use by App Qubes for better security

Something like this is what I had in mind

[ymy]

have you tried the minimal templates? you could build your security from there?

[qubist]

The Default VMS are NOT good for security.

For the security of what?

Fedora is a bit better than Debian

Evidence, please.

Something like GrapheneOS in the guest VMs would have been great. But doesn’t seem to be an option anymore.

When was it an option?

[apparatus]

@doesqubescare

Whonix does it’s job of making a leak proof Tor based OS but for users that need options other than Tor, we need better options.

Kicksecure for Qubes