I-7 12th gen intel integrated graphics not working

Qubes docs say intel integrated graphics should work. i-7 12th gen intel integrated graphics loaded but was choppy and slow. I got a Radeon amd rx 550 card (300 bucks , yuck) and qubes runs fine now, very well in fact (in comparison the the very choppy 12th gen ig).

Question is, since 12th gen i-7 chip with integrated graphics is quite common, will Qubes ever work seamlessly on it? The integrated 12th gen graphics work perfectly fine on fedora, rocky linux, clear os, ubuntu variations, you name it, it works no problem. I had over 30 distros working fine, out of the box. Qubes was the only os i encountered that has probs with intel integrated 12th gen graphics. // I wonder about 13th Gen integrated graphics too.

Maybe put in the documentation that 12th gen and 13th gen may be very slow and choppy? It would be helpful to people, because there are lots of 12th gen intel chips out there with integrated graphics. Hopefully someone can find this post and it helps them, if possible, just get an amd card. Docs say something like RX-660 or lower. I got a rx-550, and it works great. If you load Qubes, and it is slow and choppy at the install screen, just put in an amd card into the computer. I mostly wrote this for the benefit of others who are trying to install Qubes and have slow/choppy video.

Be aware that there’s a solution: System unusable without nomodeset - #3 by BEBF738VD

Be aware, there are a lot of “solutions” posted online, none of them worked. After testing each variable possible of all the “solutions” for about 5 days straight, tons of nvme total erase and starting all over again, nothing worked. That is part of the problem, when there is a culture of denial in linux. If someone had just been honest and said to use an amd card, i would have saved lots of time. Anyway, as stated, what is why I posted, i hope it remains searchable and helps others. Oah, and you know, updating the notes HONESTLY and properly would save people time too. 12th gen ig, if you could get it working, will NOT be easy. Writers should stop pretending it is.

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update— okay so with the video card in, and 64 gb ddr5 ram, and updates, and careful tuning of ram and virtual cpu (maxing out both), the video playback from things like youtube or pluto tv (for testing) seems slow. The choppy video is MUCH more subtle with the video card, however is is still enough to prevent Qubes from being a daily driver for use cases involving video. Switching to any other distro is like entering a world of lightning speed.

Maybe someday if Qubes implements kvm/QEMU than it could keep up with the pace of any other distro in terms of video work? It would be nice to use qubes as the primary daily driver, but when the subtle video choppiness makes one dizzy or have a headache, it makes it impossible to stick with Qubes for video related use cases.

Currently replying from a perfectly fine 12th gen Intel-powered machine, drop the sass.
Salty you can’t get things working? Open a support request, I’ll be happy to pitch in on this fairly simple graphical glitch.

Seems like you might be following incoherent and inadequate tests for your problem.

Easy enough to scroll through the HCL and look at potential issues. Seems like you might have overlooked this step. An AMD card is not required to successfully run Qubes OS.

I’m using 12th gen with a $100 nvidia 1060, never had any issues.

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I could reply from a 12th gen machine too, but the video would be slow and choppy. So drop the accusations of “sass”. And I never said amd is “required” to run Qubes, but it sure was a lot less choppy.

yeah, some nvidia works, but so many nvidia cards have probs with Qubes and other distros i thought it may be wise to avoid nvidia. They “nvidia” are king for gaming and heavy video processing and other workstation uses, but i just want to see the screen on a daily driver without a headache. Good point tho, if some of the nvidia cards actually solve the choppiness issues too that is great. Other distros like fedora are even starting to work with nvidia by default, which is helpful.

You never mentioned which solutions you have tried, which makes it more difficult to assist you. If you check journalctl you’ll likely see a recommendation to set a kernel parameter, such as i915.force_probe=xxxx. This fixed the extreme slowness and choppiness for me: pc went from barely being able to move the mouse to smooth movement. However, it did not fix slight choppiness when scrolling webpages. You’re more likely to receive better feedback if you provide more detail.