How to install copy-to-vm move-to-vm in debian-12-minimal xfce in R4.2?

[oijawyuh]

In R4.2 in debian-12-minimal I installed the XFCE environment. But in Thunar file browser, I still don’t have the right-click-menu copy-to-vm and move-to-vm. I installed qubes-core-agent-thunar qubes-gui-agent-xfce. What else whould I install?

[ludovic]

Hi @oijawyuh ,

I’ll try qubes-core-agent-nautilus

Reason (from a 4.1 debian11-template-based AppVM ) :

$ dpkg -l|grep nautilus
ii  gir1.2-nautilus-3.0:amd64            3.38.2-1+deb11u1                   amd64        libraries for nautilus components - gir bindings
ii  gnome-sushi                          3.38.0-1                           amd64        sushi is a quick previewer for nautilus
ii  libnautilus-extension1a:amd64        3.38.2-1+deb11u1                   amd64        libraries for nautilus components - runtime version
ii  nautilus                             3.38.2-1+deb11u1                   amd64        file manager and graphical shell for GNOME
ii  nautilus-data                        3.38.2-1+deb11u1                   all          data files for nautilus
ii  nautilus-extension-gnome-terminal    3.38.3-1                           amd64        GNOME terminal emulator application - Nautilus extension
ii  python3-nautilus                     1.2.3-3+b1                         amd64        Python binding for Nautilus components (Python 3 version)
ii  qubes-core-agent-nautilus            4.1.45-1+deb11u1                   amd64        Qubes integration for Nautilus
$ dpkg -L qubes-core-agent-nautilus
/.
/usr
/usr/lib
/usr/lib/qubes
/usr/lib/qubes/qvm_nautilus_bookmark.sh
/usr/share
/usr/share/doc
/usr/share/doc/qubes-core-agent-nautilus
/usr/share/doc/qubes-core-agent-nautilus/changelog.Debian.gz
/usr/share/doc/qubes-core-agent-nautilus/copyright
/usr/share/nautilus-python
/usr/share/nautilus-python/extensions
/usr/share/nautilus-python/extensions/qvm_copy_nautilus.py
/usr/share/nautilus-python/extensions/qvm_dvm_nautilus.py
/usr/share/nautilus-python/extensions/qvm_move_nautilus.py

[ludovic]

You could also search in the below topic:

Debian-10-minimal Configuration

I’m interested in converting as many of my Debian AppVMs as possible to debian-10-minimal-template to reduce their attack surface, and then documenting how to get to an ideal configuration for each qube function, so that other noob-intermediate users can also use the minimal template. The docs didn’t give me a good idea of how much tinkering would be required. So my question is twofold - Would anybody be interested in collaborating to document Debian-10-minimal configuration for different pop…

[oijawyuh]

Thanks, @ludovic .
I did try qubes-core-agent-nautilus and it did work but in nautilus file browser, not thunar file browser. The Debian minimal configuration posts on this forum mostly apply GNOME / natilus, not to XFCE / thunar.

[ludovic]

In this case, some ways you can explore yourself to understand the problem:

1. compare a workable with-thunar template with your minimal template : where are the thunar extensions? How does it work? Rule policies, …
2. compare in qubes-core-agent-linux, the thunar files with the nautilus files : thunar vs nautilus
3. search in the issues a thunar related problem
4. search in the forum a thunar related problem (example]

And you can explain here the ways that you find.

Finally maybe it will end with a bug report…

[augsch]

@oijawyuh

I did try qubes-core-agent-nautilus and it did work but in nautilus file browser, not thunar file browser. The Debian minimal configuration posts on this forum mostly apply GNOME / natilus, not to XFCE / thunar.

There’s qubes-core-agent-thunar package: https://deb.qubes-os.org/r4.1/vm/pool/main/q/qubes-core-agent/qubes-core-agent-thunar_4.1.45-1%2Bdeb12u1_amd64.deb

And for R4.2: https://deb.qubes-os.org/r4.2/vm/pool/main/q/qubes-core-agent/qubes-core-agent-thunar_4.2.20-1%2Bdeb12u1_amd64.deb

[oijawyuh]

@oijawyuh

I installed qubes-core-agent-thunar qubes-gui-agent-xfce.

Hi @augsch. As I mentioned earlier, I already installed qubes-core-agent-thunar as well as qubes-gui-agent-xfce.

Thanks @ludovic for your advice. It seems I’m not the only one with this problem. But no solution yet.

[DVM]

Do you have the following script on your system?

/usr/lib/qubes/qvm-actions.sh

If you do, check /etc/xdg/Thunar/uca.xml, you should have the following at the end of the file:

<action>
	<icon>stock_folder-copy</icon>
	<name>Copy to VM</name>
	<unique-id>1507455450991127-4</unique-id>
	<command>/usr/lib/qubes/qvm-actions.sh copy %F</command>
	<description></description>
	<patterns>*</patterns>
	<directories/>
	<audio-files/>
	<image-files/>
	<other-files/>
	<text-files/>
	<video-files/>
</action>
<action>
	<icon>stock_folder-move</icon>
	<name>Move to VM</name>
	<unique-id>1507455437157027-3</unique-id>
	<command>/usr/lib/qubes/qvm-actions.sh move %F</command>
	<description></description>
	<patterns>*</patterns>
	<directories/>
	<audio-files/>
	<image-files/>
	<other-files/>
	<text-files/>
	<video-files/>
</action>
<action>
	<icon>document-open</icon>
	<name>Open in VM</name>
	<unique-id>1507455471075266-5</unique-id>
	<command>/usr/lib/qubes/qvm-actions.sh openvm %F</command>
	<description></description>
	<patterns>*</patterns>
	<audio-files/>
	<image-files/>
	<other-files/>
	<text-files/>
	<video-files/>
</action>
<action>
	<icon>gtk-convert</icon>
	<name>Convert in DisposableVM</name>
	<unique-id>1507455488971315-6</unique-id>
	<command>/usr/lib/qubes/qvm-actions.sh pdf %F</command>
	<description></description>
	<patterns>*.pdf</patterns>
	<other-files/>
</action>
<action>
	<icon>gtk-convert</icon>
	<name>Convert in DisposableVM</name>
	<unique-id>1507455503129941-7</unique-id>
	<command>/usr/lib/qubes/qvm-actions.sh img %F</command>
	<description></description>
	<patterns>*</patterns>
	<image-files/>
</action>
<action>
	<icon>document-open</icon>
	<name>Edit in DisposableVM</name>
	<unique-id>1507455559234996-8</unique-id>
	<command>/usr/lib/qubes/qvm-actions.sh opendvm %F</command>
	<description></description>
	<patterns>*</patterns>
	<audio-files/>
	<image-files/>
	<other-files/>
	<text-files/>
	<video-files/>
</action>
<action>
	<icon>document-open</icon>
	<name>View in DisposableVM</name>
	<unique-id>1507455559234997-9</unique-id>
	<command>/usr/lib/qubes/qvm-actions.sh viewdvm %F</command>
	<description></description>
	<patterns>*</patterns>
	<audio-files/>
	<image-files/>
	<other-files/>
	<text-files/>
	<video-files/>
</action>

[oijawyuh]

@DVM I just checked. Yes, I have all the scripts in my minimal Debian Qube where I still cannot get the Thunar menu items to show copy/move to other qube. Note I have “Copy to other qube” instead of “Copy to VM.” This is a sample of what I have:

	<icon>stock_folder-copy</icon>
	<name>Copy to other qube</name>
	<unique-id>1507455450991127-4</unique-id>
	<command>/usr/lib/qubes/qvm-actions.sh copy %F</command>
	<description></description>
	<patterns>*</patterns>
	<directories/>
	<audio-files/>
	<image-files/>
	<other-files/>
	<text-files/>
	<video-files/>
</action>
<action>
	<icon>stock_folder-move</icon>
	<name>Move to other qube</name>
	<unique-id>1507455437157027-3</unique-id>
	<command>/usr/lib/qubes/qvm-actions.sh move %F</command>
	<description></description>
	<patterns>*</patterns>
	<directories/>
	<audio-files/>
	<image-files/>
	<other-files/>
	<text-files/>
	<video-files/>

[DVM]

Mine is an old naming scheme, now the template looks like this:

QubesOS/qubes-core-agent-linux/blob/main/qubes-rpc/thunar/uca_qubes.xml

Replace what you have in <action> with the template and see if you have them in the menu list.

Edit; Can you check if you have this file too: /etc/xdg/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/thunar.xml

[qubes-neurotic]

Had the same prob. Installing qubes-menus, qubes-core-agent-linux along with qubes-core-agent-thunar fixed it.