What would be better alternative to access sites where you would normally locked down once they see you are using 3rd party VPN service (mullvad/protonvpn)?
I’m talking about banks, facebook, online marketplaces etc. Many many services simply don’t work and moreover you risk locking down your account once you attempt to log in via VPN service. I mean, I could access using my regular residential ISP. But first, I need to hide my activity from the ISP itself, and second, I actually don’t want to use same IP when I’ve got multiple accounts on same platform. This will lock me down eventually. For example, I’m participating in multiple Facebook groups under different profiles. I need to keep them separate. And with banks, even I’m able to log in to some of them with 3rd party VPN, the captchas and mandatory verification on every login is just waste a lot of time (even though I have separate vm for it with cookies and all of it). Even google putting to many captchas when using VPN. It’s getting worse and worse, and every now and then, some sites I use frequently start restricting access to them.
What are my options here? I saw in blackhat forums that you can buy residential proxies there. Will this work for my needs to help not to get locked down and skip non stop captchas?
You are trying to route all your traffic through some kind of anonymizing network. Big tech site are designed to capture your data and don’t work well when they can’t.
Instead try to segregate your traffic based on when you want to do. If you are using banking and government site, then use the clearnet. The ISP will be able to see the traffic to that bank, but all sensitive info is encrypted anyway.
If you want to… look at feet online or something use tor with Whonix.
I honestly think the captchas situation has gotten a lot better the past few years. I think it’s because most people use VPN these days and Tor users have increased.
From my experience, with Tor, youtube might make you fill out one captcha and then is smooth sailing for an hour or two, until you see the “video unavailable error”, at which point you click on “New identity” in the Tor Control Panel, and the cycle begins again.
Social media sites are the ones you’ll have the most trouble with. If you start logging in from different IP’s your account will be locked for ‘security reasons’. In that case then residential VPNs would be the answer I guess.
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Thank you for your response. In addition in what I said, I actually travel often internationally and trying to log in from outside the country, even with directly via ISP would cause me issues. I never use Tor, but regular VMs connected to VPN profiles. I have multiple VPN profiles, some are 3rd party services, some are self setup WG VPN on VPS. As for the social media, I use to have separate vm for each profile and use saved cookies instead of login/password.
I’m not sure how often the paid residential IP’s are changing and also don’t even know how they getting access to them (hopefully it’s not some hacked routers or something). I read somewhere that using Mobile Network profiles are safer choice not to get locked out because they change more often and banks/social media built keeping that in mind.
So you have different “static ip” VPN services for each of your accounts. That should work well. You shouldn’t really be doing any browsing in those qubes, because the logged in account is linked to that browsing history, or if you are using a different browser, is linked to the associated IP, which leads to fingerprinting and so on.
That is the beauty of Qubes OS, If you want to “look at feet” online use a different qube for your browsing, one that goes through a different VPN, or a residential proxy. You don’t really need a static IP for that, you actually want the opposite.
You also shouldn’t trust any VPN/residential proxy provides, or even Tor is you ask me (controversial opinion!). It’s a good idea to link a couple of encrypted networks together to isolate your IP much better, but now you are trying to recreate Tor.
See the post I mentioned before, about chaining VPN, Tor, or res. proxys together for that.