X startup failed [frustrated and exasperated]

i have tried removing nouveau using the docs startup line and no beuno, if i boot in uefi, it spits out a bunch of text and leaves me on a black screen… it seems my machine is not built for qubes which is sad because its a very powerful system

Hardware compatibility is one of the major frustrations of users. Can you try and get a screenshot or transcribe the text that shows just before the black screen? That will help others diagnose the issue with your system.

Also, searching on the forum for “black screen” yields a couple of results. Maybe one is your issue: Search results for 'black screen' - Qubes OS Community Forum

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Ill try to get a picture

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my machine is not built for qubes which is sad because its a very powerful system

Do you feel comfortable disclosing what machine it is? Is it in the HCL?
Maybe someone else already installed Qubes on this or a very similar
machine.

AMD Ryzen 9 3950x
Nvidia RTX 3080
Corsair 64GBS Ram @ 3200MHZ
6TB SSD Storage
2TB Mechanical

Have you seen this page?

I checked the HCL and couldn’t find any install with RTX 3080. In
general your hardware looks very new, which means you might have more
success trying the R4.1 Alpha maybe (newer Fedora in dom0 and hence
better support for new hardware).