Why is there no central directory of consulting companies / freelancers for Qubes OS support?

Qubes OS project does not endorse any of the people or organizations listed.

This disclaimer should be part of every table. It is not readily visible when it is only in the category’s definition.

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Well done, @deeplow! Looks good. Thank you for doing this!

It is a creative way of utilising existing software to perform a task it wasn’t specifically designed to do. Creative hacking at its best! :sunglasses:

I do have some suggestions:

Suggestion Explanation Why?
Limit Thread Post Count Limit thread post count to one or two, or only to the user that created the thread/listing This will stop listings from becoming a place where randoms hold a conversation, or from spamming feedback/abuse/etc onto the end of a listing
Designate “Owner” of Listing as “Thread Mod” Allow the user who made the initial thread/listing complete control over that thread They can add, remove, edit, moderate, collapse, and manipulate any post made by any user in their thread/listing (and they can take care of all the modding responsibility so you guys don’t have to) :slight_smile:
Disclaimer at the bottom of every thread Make sure that it’s really emphasised that the listing have nothing to do with the Qubes team @tanky0u’s suggestion kind of makes sense, but is a lot of extra work (and potentially space on the server for duplicate posts)
Compulsory “Alert” stating “no endorsement from the Qubes team” every time you open a thread/page/listing Similar to those annoying “We use cookies” alerts that cover the entire page, any visitor to the listing must click I understand" before they can even see the listings Might be easier from a server standpoint, and likely also a lot more legally protective of the Qubes project :slight_smile:
MAYBE discouraging people from “conducting business” on this forum Stating that even private chats that describe business activites of any kind will be purged, and anyone seeking consultancy should use alternate methods of interaction beyond simple introduction on this forum Limiting liability of the Qubes team (I don’t want to see this forum targeted or taken down…)
Required explicit statement of no association with Qubes Project in listing Require all listing to explicitly declare that they have nothing to with the Qubes Project (or, at least, their consultancy has nothing to do with it) Indemnify the Qubes Project against someone giving bad advice and getting pwned badly

I don’t know how feasible any of these are, or if they’re even worth worrying about. They might not be…

I’m just brainstorming to help make an already fantastic result as good as it can be :slight_smile:

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Thanks for the suggestions. Is this a Discourse forum feature?

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From what I can see, it might be possible to “assign” a thread to a particular user.

I’ll look into it and get back to you :slight_smile:

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Wouldn’t this allow them to delete negative feedback? No bueno

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It was coming from the assumption that it was a listing only. To keep it simple for someone to look consultants up.

I had the following scenarios in mind:

  • Spambots
  • Untrue and unjustified slander and abuse
  • Prevent a single listing from having a million posts, and the others only one
  • Always thinking about hard drive space of the forum servers. Don’t want it taking up too much space :wink:

Plus, the listings have to cater for all types of consultants (yes, I mean what you think I mean), and I’d rather their conversations not appear public on this forum. It would be a nightmare all around (legal, PR, forum mods, etc.)…

Tienes razon, hermano/a, but do any other consultant listings offer feedback?

The Debian Consultant Page doesn’t, at least…

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Well, Debian consultant page isn’t a forum category either. Your assumption must take into consideration that people judge service providers by listings when they’re looking for service. Replies to listings feel like a natural place for feedback to accumulate. Which means people will fondle feedback if allowed to do so.

Unjustified slander / abuse is the main problem here, in both directions. It would be naive to expect that abuse can only come from customers or accounts that try to mimic customers. As a user I would expect this forum to be a “neutral territory” where service provider doesn’t have much power over what I see. Giving support providers moderation powers turns listings into extensions of their websites.

Now it feels like total prohibition of replies is a good option. This would solve self-bumping and storage problems too. Actually, why haven’t you suggested this instead of thread moderation? It is less work than any form of moderation and follows the precedent set by Debian.

I don’t see how there will be a significant amount of conversations anyway. QubesOS users are a security- and privacy-oriented crowd. They are going to try and keep conversations private as long as there are accessible means to do so.

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Based on current activity in the Paid Support Providers category, I do not see any urgent need to implement any further suggestions.

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