I thought it was rather amusing in the context.
I never presume to speak for the Qubes team.
When I comment in the Forum I speak for myself.
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I think feds would love if all discussions about intel me was deleted and everyone forgets about it and no one teaches beginners about it. Thatâs why I think itâs important to do the opposite. Make sure its never forgotten.
The more attention it gets, the higher chance some organisation will eventually dedicate the resources to create a solution.
And it also puts more pressure on politicians when more people are aware.
And remember, itâs also completely optional to spend your time reading the replies in a topic about Intel ME. No on is forcing anyone to read the posts.
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To clarify, my intended point was that it was the immature behavior that resulted in the suspension, not the subject matter. As mentioned, I personally enjoyed reading the refresh on intel ME and agree that it doesnât hurt to keep bringing it up and pushing the envelope toward an eventual fix. However, I think thatâs much more likely to happen while also displaying respect for others. I think parulin-mod summed it up well on the actual thread:
https://forum.qubes-os.org/t/back-doors-in-everything/39710/64
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If a thread was closed, then the message of âno means noâ should be clear enough, what the boundaries are.
I canât understand why, compared to a real-life analogy, someone who is no longer welcome in someoneâs home, would keep on knocking on the door, because âno one is forcing the owner and the neighbors to listen to the knockingâ, unless that person doesnât want to understand consent.
Doubtful, that itâs even possible, because a quick usage of a search engine provides a lot of results to sites and articles, which were available for years.
Given my above reply about the search engine results, did anything like this happen throughout the years starting from when the presence of it was raised?
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I couldnât agree any more with @solene.
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English is hard but do I now understand ?
âfounderâ = "mommyâ = âRootkowskiâ = rootkovska =
pornographic connotations
Yes I am @Confused
Well at least it may be harder to say things have " Become So Quiet Lately? after ridiculous threads like this, or not :shrug:?
Serious for a minute (1. gawd I hope Joanne doesnât read this drivel)
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I got bored to reply to the same questions every weeks, itâs cool if people use the search feature before asking now
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I couldnât agree any moreâŚ
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Kind regards tanky0u.
Very sorry mods for all this blather. 
you all for dealing with us all!
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My mistake âŚkovska. Thanks for the âcorrectionâ OvalZero.
Also apologies for the top post.
Whoâd suspect Just In would be such an ignorant newb?
Best regardsâŚ
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I know sheâs off busy doing other things these days but I will be
reaching out to Joanna directly about it.
Did anything come out of this?
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Noisy forum != useful forum
If I may point out, there are way too many threads about everything and nothing, in which the word âQubesâ is just placed here and there to appear that thread is not off-topic, while it actually is. This is being exploited and even abused by people who neither know how to argue intelligently, nor to reason sanely, and results in turning otherwise important topics into a âoh⌠another one of thoseâ. It is âkloakingâ the community, if I may use that allegory, to a point that nobody wants to even read these threads any more.
IMO, it would be helpful, especially for new Qubes users, to have the âUser supportâ section be something like Stackoverflow Q&A with strict moderation. That would solve the problem @solene mentioned. If that is âtoo quietâ for anyone, the additional noise should be properly channeled and linked to in a way that does not affect those looking for concise, clear and specific answers.
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I personally stopped visiting this place because for the time I learned enough for my desktop to be usable. I am back here again because I decided to tinker with templates a bit and I realized I been using Qubes suboptimally. Namely I used to create new vm for each different account/identity I had to have. Which isnât always needed
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I personally stopped visiting this place because for the time I
learned enough for my desktop to be usable.
This is my case as well. Nowadays I skim through the forum threads very
quickly in my email client.
And thatâs good. QubesOS users shouldnât have to be in a constant âhigh
effort learningâ state. I was in that state in the first few months of
my QubesOS usage. Nowadays I am comfortable enough with QubesOS so that
I donât need to learn more about it.
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Itâs not about people seeking helpâŚ
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As a newcomer I find it very hard to find information, despite searching feature of the forum
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@ellie_zh Do you have any ideas on how the newcomer experience could be improved in the context of searching for information? Your feedback would be very valuable.
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As others, I can only speek for myself:
- AI can answer most of the question any ânewbeâ might have. - in a suprisingly good way, if you ask me.
- I found less and less âvaluableâ questions what would worth my time even just to read it - not to mention to answer it. And it comes from the fact that I do not have to much âspareâ time in general, and I might have very high expectations, they toldâŚ
- the ânew generationâ doesnât like forums, they demand immediate attention and aswers like a tiktok âpostâ - compare it to the fact that I was starting on mailing list
some of you guys not even know what it is - most of (my) answer would starting with a suggestion about reading more in the topic - and it seems âtheyâ donât satified with such answers
- Qubes OS is not for everyone. And if it is really for you, you might already find the answer to your question anywayâŚ
And for sure no offense with these, it is surely subjective and it is only my personal view
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Iâm not very active in online discussions like this, so I donât think I can suggest anything specific to the forum. Maybe a large list of walkthroughs grouped by topic? I know it would need maintenance by advanced users, but it could help reduce repeated answers to the same questions.
It helped me a lot, but itâs often very misleading and recommends incorrect ways of doing things.
So letâs just tell new users that Qubes isnât for them just because theyâre lost 
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nah,
That was not a suggestion but my conclusion.
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Qubes OS is for everyone. Especially for less experienced users. Theyâre the most vulnerable target group.
âStart your bloody Windows HVM this way and donât put anything to it. For your ebanking click here and do not use the browser for any other address. You want (online) gaming? Get a separate rig for it and do not use it for anything else at any costâ.
Simple as that.
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Sneak peek, one of those projects is now preparing a 2-hour presentation of AI security, although whether I do it for VanLUG or OWASP is now up to me to decide.
A Qubes OS presention would be more appropriate for VanLUG, but technically Qubes OS is not a Linux distribution, it just uses them as TemplateVMs instead.
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