What is stopping you from using QubesOS?

Sometimes people say that they love what the Qubes team is doing and wish to use the reasonably secure OS but there is just one thing which prevents them from making it their daily driver. What is stopping you?

(inspired by these posts)

If you need help with an issue, you can create a new topic and link it here. If you already use Qubes OS, you of course don’t need to answer :wink:


Can’t have plausible deniability with qubes without detached header.

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I’m waiting for the new App Menu design and for official support of GPU passthrough for gaming


i think more people will use Qubes,
because in my prediction, but my prediction could be wrong,
nowadays, due to corona pandemic, people life has been shifting to digital life,

but from privacy and security aspect, in my opinion, digital technology is not ready,
because, most of the digital technology,
focus more on performance, and how to make their product more user friendly,
also data mining,
but less focus on privacy and security of its user.

  • There are backdoor on NSA-tier, i.e. intel Me
  • There are privacy nightmare with OS, i.e. windows 10
  • There are telemetry, maybe almost all software we use, have telemetry.
  • And then there are malware, spyware, virus, trojan, and so on.
  • There are hacker.
  • There are man in the middle, i.e. LAN administrator, ISP, and any entity in the middle
  • And then there are data mining giants:
    4 horsemen of the apocalypse, US Tech Giant, China Tech Giant
  • There are Google Privacy concerns
  • There are 5 eyes, 9 eyes, 14 eyes
  • also Android by Google, iOS by Apple - we don’t know what data being sent back home,
  • and so on, …

Several weeks ago, I used Wireshark, to monitor Macbook traffic,
Wireshark only, without opening any other app, also I filter to my Macbook IP only,
and I saw busy traffic, between Macbook, and many Ips in the Internet,
which then I figured out, these IP belong to several Apple server, also Amazon and Microsoft,
not sure, what data in the traffic, since I didn’t open any app, other than wireshark.

so we are surrounded,

thankfully, Qubes can protect us from several threat model,
maybe not perfect, but much better.

so due to this situation & condition, I predict that more people will use Qubes.

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What had stopped me (now I got a new notebook and installed QOS again):

I had a very hard time with

  • the usb-keyboard / mouse
    easily doable when reading the docs properly

  • to get the Yubikey working properly
    fixed with web search and community support

  • to get a VPN setup
    only approach which worked for me was the very well documented step-by-step explanation from: Using Mullvad VPN in Qubes

  • to understand the Qubes device manager with all the sdx / sdx1 / sys-usb …
    now, I understand the syntax and I hope the new proposed drop down menu solves it for all newbies.

Something I didn’t like from the early beginning “Qubes OS uses Google services for support” ?!

Now, I’m looking forward to:

  • updated GUI (as presented in the last summit)

  • improved new (incremental) backup routine
    currently, I’ve a backup crash which is super critical for me

Keep up the great work here in the community and a big thank you to the dev team!


in my opinion, better don’t buy laptop, that is not compatible with Qubes.
but maybe, others have different consideration.

because in my opinion,

  • we don’t buy hardware first, then next deciding, what compatible software we can use,
  • but vice versa, should know first, what software we want to use, then next looking for hardware,
    that can support the software,
  • because at the end, what we use is software, and the hardware is just a supporting factor

but others may have different consideration, i.e. maybe a big fan of specific brand, etc

so maybe, the more important question is, whether Qubes is compatible with other software,
i.e. for designer, maybe they use 3dsmax, photoshop, etc
i.e. for programmer, maybe they use ide, docker, etc

also, i tried, creating new appVM and screen sharing with zoom, or google meeting,
it cannot screen share all opened software within the same appVM,
so when i screen share, the partner can only see the zoom software only,
anyone know, how to screen share all opened software within the same VM ?

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  • GPU Passthrough/lack of support for gaming
  • RAM

From here:

General slowness and cumbersome usage for common tasks.

From here:

my computer has only 8gb of RAM so the experience was kind of slow

A post was split to a new topic: Screensharing Zoom doesn’t Show Other Applications (in the same app qube)