Trolls, sockpuppets and antisocial behavior

Is Qubes OS a professional organization willing to work with the public on supporting the OS or supporting the cause of conspiracy theories, hacked computers, psychological paranoia and etc. Take a hard look at other OS sites such as BSD, Linux, Microsoft windows, MacOS, iphone, android…etc. Look at how they manage it or do those topics even exist? If you provide free food without any protection against flies and vermin then all you will have is flies and vermin. Users will not trust the forum to provide OS support and leave. Good luck!

I moved the above post here because it was posted in a totally unrelated discussion. But I think it’s just the same as other posts by the same user

I consider Qubes OS to be some kind of meta-OS that allows you to run multiple OS, but it’s focusing on the workstation use case. This seems to be on-topic to have meta-discussions about using such unusual operating system for daily tasks, not focusing only on the internals.

The moderation team already close topics that aren’t related to Qubes OS at all, I think it’s fine as it is currently.

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While I sincerely respect the OP and I absolutely agree with the content of its OP, I’d flag this topic itself.

The forum is flooded with topics about trolling and flooding. Not to say when the OP visits the site “2 or 3 times in 2 or 3 months”, yet he spends that small amount of time on this…

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I have seen the other sites. Nothing about hacked computers “blaming the creators”, conspiracies and open ended questions. We are going above and beyond topics for this OS. Maybe discussions involving privacy, conspiracies, hacked…etc that waste time and resources have its own subgroup. Users serious about the OS won’t get absorbed into that rabbit hole, either don’t see the subgroup and therefore avoiding the “clickbait”. Eventually after segregating those discussions created by “trolls…etc” they will give up because no one is seeing their posts or responding to it, giving them less “gas to the fire” so to speak. Lets divide and conquer. Maybe getting the chance to remove “general discussions” which belong to other sites like reddit, whonix, tor, or privacy guide…etc.

As a “meta-os” discussions on windows, linux, bsd…etc should have their own subgroup. Discussions on unrelated topics that are not techincal but are “discussions…”, “thinking out loud”, “what about this idea?” or “what setup do you have?” …etc do not belong anywhere. Bury it deep within subgroups. Eventually we will save people alot of time and energy.

this is one point of view indeed

In this field which Qubes OS is in, allowing the “public” to be moderators or just quickly jumping unto AI would cause problems to the core values imo. Heavens forbid they try to do things like reddit, etc… the project would most surely be committing suicide.

I think the moderators are doing a great job! I am sure there are challenges but sticking to core principles and not taking the easy route does pay off in the long run, especially when done the right way.

Well, let’s not get carried away. The project did just fine for a decade without having an official forum at all (just mailing lists). Worst case, we close down the forum, and the project continues to chug along like it did in the olden days.

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Do you know when the forum was implemented, and somewhere I read that prior to the forum there was a google :face_with_peeking_eye: group?

Wikipedia says initial release of Qubes OS was in September 2012.

I have only recently discovered Qubes OS, I tried looking on the main website for a write up by the Qubes OS team on the history of the project.

In 2020. :slight_smile:

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All the mailing lists are implemented as Google Groups. They still very much exist.

It’s explained here: https://www.qubes-os.org/support/#google-groups

That was the first stable release. There were alpha and beta releases before that. Of course, the project had to exist and run for a while before it could publish its first stable release. Here’s the first announcement:

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