@Chris0803 Great info, I wholeheartedly agree with you on all points - rare to say unfortunately with so many kooks on the web lol
Are there any iptables wizards that have any advice for me on this setup, not looking at anyone @icequbes1 
would you have any ideas as you seem to be an iptables wizard from what I’ve seen in posts like this - Freelance request: NYM -> Tor connection chaining for Whonix Workstation qube - #9 by icequbes1
I’m also looking to set up redsocks but its beyond me at this stage, does anyone have a good guide?