Sys-net with minimal template - need help

Hey everyone, I’ve tried to switch from regular debian 11 to debian 11 minimal for my sys-net, just for the sake of it and obviously to reduce the filesize, but I must be doing something wrong because it won’t even start.

After I downloaded the template and it was visible in the qubes manager, then I updated it and then installed necessary packages: qubes-core-agent-networking, qubes-core-agent-network-manager, gnome-keyring, firmware-iwlwifi, and then I turned off the my original sys-net and tried to switch my sys-firewall to updated sys-net and start it, but it didn’t even start…

Maybe I did something wrong? I tried for like 7-8 times…What did I miss, please?

Update: I forgot to mention that I tried to make it a dispVM with the following lines:

[user@dom0 ~]$ qvm-create --template <TEMPLATE> --label red <DISPOSABLE_TEMPLATE>
[user@dom0 ~]$ qvm-prefs <DISPOSABLE_TEMPLATE> template_for_dispvms True
[user@dom0 ~]$ qvm-features <DISPOSABLE_TEMPLATE> appmenus-dispvm 1

Update2: Can someone maybe tell me how step by step make a disposable sys-net based on minimal debian template? It would really help

Can you maybe describe more precisely what exactly the process you went through? I’m also kinda interested in this and will try that out later on and tell you if I succeed and what I did exactly so you could retry that too

Oh, and did you try with regular, not minimal template to recreate sys-net? Maybe it’s not because of the minimal template

Does the new sys-net have the setting for providing network? Is the sys-firewall set to to use the new sys-net as it’s network VM? Is the network device attached to the new sys-net? There are also a couple settings in the Qubes global settings app for the net VM - is the new sys-net also set as your clock VM and does it have the service enabled.

I don’t know about the disposable part, but I used to use a minimized template for my sys-net as well (based on Fedora-34-minimal). A few suggestions for packages: network-manager-applet, Network-Manager, wireless-tools, polkit, notification-daemon. Since then, I’ve since given up on the minimal template because of numerous problems with file shares and backups, but good luck.

as usual, I recommend going LIteqube instead :slight_smile: