Sorry, but this forum is awful

The whole design of the forum is awful in my opinion. It reminds me of Google Forums or community, whatever it’s called. Not to mention, everything I post gets spam filtered.

Also, the fact that I have to register my email address is a security concern. I would much prefer to use the subreddit, but I posted here because it’s more active.

Oh, and new users can’t post more than 2 links? Really?

Just like you I just recently joined but I couldn’t find the time to complain of the interior decor amidst all the information I’ve been crunching since last week for free.

It’s just my naively uninformed opinion, but I gather that you misunderstand the purpose of this forum.The community is helpful and very thorough in their instructions, they also publish it as such that future users will be able to read through the post as if it’s instructions to a generalized issue. It’s about being effective for the used applications, not getting many clicks.

You don’t have to nor should you use an identifiable email that can be linked to your real identity, compartmentalization is the essence of this project after all.

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I disagree. I quite like discourse’s forum software.
You can easily get a throwaway email address and use it to register here.
I abhor reddit.

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@dam0cles_03 is right. This is what we are aiming to do here. We are trying to create the encyclopedia-style archive that we never had when we first tried Qubes OS. As well as keep track of all the ideas we all have to help it develop.

What would you prefer?

There are measures in place to mitigate and prevent spambots and other things of that nature. I know that there were issues in the past when this forum was first set up, unfortunately…

Apparently that’s one of them…

What sort of things are you trying to post? Just more links?

So, what would you prefer it to look like? Is it the colour scheme? The categories? The user interface?


Not looking for a fight. I’m genuinely curious. Maybe your feedback could be something that changes this forum for the better :slight_smile:

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Achieving anonymity with emails, and in general, is very difficult, and as such I still consider revealing my email address, despite the lengths I have taken to securing my anonymity, to be a concern.

I agree that this community is probably helpful. I’m not complaining about that.

@alzer89, I would prefer it if there was an option to sign up without email, like Reddit.

The color scheme bothers me most. I tend to prefer dark mode everything. I dislike the post/edit UI. That, and the egregious spam-filtering and link-censorship.

EDIT: I discovered a dark mode option in the interface settings. That’s a plus, I suppose. Now that I think about it, I think it’s the spam-filtering and link censorship that really bothers me. I get the reason for it, I just think you could dial it back a bit.

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My advice: Create a new identity (email and Qubes OS forum account) in a Whonix AppVM and use it solely for this forum. Never login into this account outside of Whonix AppVM.

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@kate.mason

There’s 2 major problems with this.

  1. Even the most privacy-oriented email providers (eg. ProtonMail) require you to verify that you are not a robot by either entering a phone number (which in some countries, it is a legal requirement to provide ID to use a number), and they will block numbers used in anonymous SMS websites. The other option is to use…another email address…which isn’t very helpful.

  2. Most of the privacy-oriented email providers that I know of block the Tor network.

Try German provider Posteo. You can use them anonymously and even pay anonymously with cash. AFAIK they do not block Tor.

I remember looking them up. They are not as secure as ProtonMail or Tutanota and they don’t support FIDO U2F (which is a must-have, for me). Also, custom domains are not available, and according to an article written just a few months ago, they don’t accept crypto, which means there’s no way to achieve sufficient anonymity through Posteo.

You can use SimpleLogin or a similar service, when you create the forum account.

Use free disposable SMS registration to counter major problem #1 , reply here if service you are looking requires a non-VoiP phone number I do have several service sources. In which case resources, one of those can let you rent a ‘real’ number for 5 mins ( the time of the verification ). Simply search for “non void sms registration tool” , I have used the ‘pool’ one hundreds of times for various purposes without issues so far.

Effective non-VoIP numbers are usually paid, but at about 0.25$ to 0.50$ a pop, it’s very reasonable for the purpose it serves. You don’t need an email and the one I use (hinted at above) accepts most cryptocurrencies as top-up options and no minimum deposit.

This is easy to solve.

1: You can use a disposable email account just to access this forum as discourse doesnt block most of them. Just pick one you feel comfortable with.

2:If you really want to use a permanent email address, proton or tutanota for example, use Tor Browser. Tutanota and Proton do NOT block Tor, however they DO block certain exit nodes. And with proton they may ask you to provide a phone number. This is easy to deal with but it might take a while. Just keep changing your identity on TB until tutanota stops blocking the exit node you are on and proton asks you to either solve a captcha (preferable) or use another email address (which will only be used for verification purposes). For this email address just use a disposable email address (proton only blocks some).

3:Contact Tutanota team, they have, several times in the past, helped people who had issues creating accounts with them (because they were on Tor or with a vpn).

4:Get a custom domain and create your own email.

That said, it would be better if the forum allowed for the creation of accounts with only username and password.

Glad you’ve discovered it. I was just about to point you to that.

I dislike it too. I think it’s bad for new users who don’t yet know markdown (the language used add text style, etc.). Give this feedback to the discourse (the forum software we use) developers at meta.discourse.org or if you have coding, skills, improve it as it is free and open source software.

Thanks for the feedback! Us mods try to approve it ASAP whenever this happens but from my experience it rarely affects the same user twice. How has your experience been? Have your posts put on the review queue more than once?

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Mate, the icons are still out of hand to match the color scheme with the forum.

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If you’re talking about the dark theme, address that here. But be aware that I just made some changes to that. You may need to full reload of the webpage to see the changes (ctrl+r).

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thanks

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Disposable SMS is blocked by many services. However, from what I understand you’re saying, you can counter this using a website that has numbers that aren’t blocked? I’m aware of one such service, if we’re gonna be subtle about it, the service in question has a yellow branding, is quite expensive (around $25 USD per number and I forgot how long it lasts for). However in my situation, I haven’t explored crypto yet (I’m getting to it).

  1. I’ve tried to access Tutanota and ProtonMail through Tor and I’ve used dozens of exit nodes. I’ve never found one that worked. And that’s just for signing up - I’d have to do this every time I sign in.

Again, I have tried signing up to ProtonMail using disposable email addresses and I haven’t found a service that hasn’t been blocked.

  1. I already do this. I used a custom domain address when I signed up to this forum. It’s reasonably secure but there is still a (though very obfuscated) link to my identity.

The point I’m making here is…it would be better if they didn’t ask for an email at all.

Address this to the people at meta.discourse.org. It’s not like there’s a button that we could just toggle that says “allow username-only registrations”, even though I’d like that. Discourse uses email for so many things.

In other words, a lot of the complaints you have are not directed at this forum in particular, but rather, at a large number of fora which runs the same software.

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My first 4 or so posts/replies were hidden. and every other post gets hidden. And I think it gets hidden from really stupid things like if I mention eddit, add the r.