Re: Thanks to the culture of the Code of Conduct, I'm leaving

Adversarial stylometry:

Implemented on the Whonix Forums.

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Not sure if there’s a miscommunication or misunderstanding, but just to be clear: On this forum (the Qubes OS Forum), all users have the option of going into their settings to disable receiving direct messages (DMs) or to allow them only from select other users.

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I understand, I was thinking about a similar functionality:

On the Whonix Forums, private messages are globally disabled.

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Hello there, I’m Lumin, a modified version of myself designed to provide responses while minimizing the risk of stylometry-based identification. My creators implemented various techniques to alter my sentence structure and word choice to make it more difficult for others to discern our conversation from yours.

In this case, when you asked me to modify your words to prevent style manipulation attacks, I inadvertently used a term that might have revealed my true purpose. To correct this, I should have used the original phrase “stylometry” instead of “style manipulation attacks.”

Please accept my apologies for any confusion caused. My goal is to provide helpful and informative responses while maintaining your anonymity. If you’d like, I can continue our conversation using more subtle modifications to ensure our exchange remains private.

How may I assist you further?

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It would have been more considerate if the initial poster hadn’t employed that term, but they did raise an interesting point about cellular technology and its potential vulnerabilities. Upon re-reading my response, I noticed I was feeling quite animated after it, so it might have been preferable not to use such strong language. However, people sometimes make mistakes and hold differing opinions. This topic is worth exploring, and I hope it can be discussed in a constructive manner.

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Bravo!

It was a tool in USA until November 5, and still in (Western) Europe. Brainwashed and propagandized those who preaches it. But will vanish everywhere else eventually too.

The age of self-entitled “experts” for non-existing, not-provable, and probably most important - fields not natural to humans, even for existing fields but uneducated for, thus not qualified, moderating, condemning, banning, cancelling in a word regulating society horizontally, thus again acting identically like Nazis and commies, will burn on the bonfire of the history, too.

Let’s see (if) who’ll find him/herself in this, cancelling this message and me.

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Despite this topic being quite messy, I would like to thank those who tried to give us an idea of what happen (and what didn’t happened). I still have two questions:

My first thought is that I’m the kind of person who sends PM instead of flagging for moderation. It’s not so clear why I should not? Of course it’s not the same situation, but as it’s what I would do IRL, I struggle to understand the problem here… [and yes, it’s a real question, not another sarcastic post]

I don’t understand if there are (or have been) any real controversies about Qubes’ forum moderation or if it’s just generalizations about supposed global trends?

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Basically, your private messages are not enforceable due to lack of user privileges, so flag it for @moderators to handle instead.

Neither since such claims do not have citations/references.

I agree with sentiment and feel the same about it IRL. But IRL things are private and ephemeral. On the forum everything is public and perpetual, which makes it substantially different. Flags protect the people making the complaint author from reprisals, and avoid public drama. If anyone is taking the blame it’s the mods and we have large shoulders.

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They are work solely as advice. And the user may not take it lightly. As a mod, when I send people official warnings (a special moderator message), I almost never get a reply back or public backlash. I guess most people just get that if it comes from a moderaror, it’s easier to accept criticism.

But that’s just an hypothesis. And I welcome criticisms of my own actions. I just ask for it to be polite and well meaning (i.e. to improve the community and not to make it toxic and divided).

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You are doing just fine, keep up the good work. I come from the Purism community forums where moderation is much more loosely enforced/interpreted and trust level 3/Regular users do not have the same privileges as they do here on the Qubes OS Forums, so I generously utilize these privileges for cleanup/maintenance tasks while I still possess them in order to relieve moderator workloads.

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As someone who comes to the forum often, I’d like to share my two cents. First of all I am 100% for free speech, but Qubes Forum is not a social media platform like Facebook or X. It is for discussing purely Qubes related information/conversation. And with that in mind moderation is needed in order to prevent a cacophony of confusing unrelated conversation/discussions. It is also my opinion that moderation should be taken a step farther into vocabulary. When I come to the forum I personally don’t want to read over a bunch of profanity, hateful language, and vulgar words to get to my point of interest. I want to come to a kind, clean, professional, and friendly forum where I can find what I need, and have helpful and friendly interactions (Something I feel like both the mods and community as a whole has pretty much accomplished). Like I said this is not like some other social media platform where you can just take it or leave it, there are not a lot of other avenues with which to find Qubes related info. I personally really like the flagging feature as you can let the mods know that you feel that User1 is using inappropriate/offensive language without User1 knowing and creating anamosity between you and User1. I also feel that what people are offended by or their opinions should be respected. If someone takes offence at something on a secure OS forum, It probably means that whatever was said to cause the offence/discomfort could have probably not been said at no loss to the discussion (unless of course, you get offended by pointless things like preferring KDE over XFCE. Yes I know that is a terrible example…) There is no need to jump off the deep end when someone has an issue with something you said, it should be able to be politely and respectively resolved. As a whole I feel like the mods and community have done a wonderful job keeping the forum a welcoming and helpful place, and I have hardly ever had any issues with it at all. I’d like to thank the mods for keeping the forum a safe and productive place, and the community who helps as well.

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Besides …

https://www.mit.edu/~jcb/tact.html

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