Qubes OS on Raspberry Pi 5 16GB?

[CyBerMazout]

Hello, the Raspberry Pi 5 16GB is now available for the consumer market. Is it possible to use Qubes OS with it? It can support an M.2 NVMe HDD using the Raspberry Pi M.2 HAT+. I think it is very cool to have a Raspberry system in the pocket to have an autonomous security desktop system. Best regards!

[FranklyFlawless]

No, as the Raspberry Pi 5 uses the aarch64/ARM64 architecture:

System requirements

System requirements

Notice: The system requirements on this page are necessary, but not sufficient, for Qubes compatibility at a minimal or recommended level. In other words, just because a computer satisfies these requirements doesn’t mean that Qubes will successfully install and run on it. We strongly recommend consulting the resources below when selecting hardware for Qubes.

Minimum

• CPU: 64-bit Intel or AMD processor (also known as x86_64, x64, and AMD64)
  • Intel VT-x with EPT or AMD-V with RVI
  • Intel VT-d or AMD-Vi (also known as AMD IOMMU)

[luja]

the ssd is connected using pcie? how many lanes?

raspi has been a badly designed platform that uses erverything via usb bridges which is bad for I/O bandwidth.
Look at nvidia orin and you see arm with virtualization capabilities enough RAM for grown ups.

So please if there is a Qubes for ARM, then do it for the NVIDIA ORIN AGX which is a nice pocket super computer.

Jetson Orin Nano Super Developer Kit

NVIDIA Jetson AGX Orin

" Jetson AGX Orin Series

Jetson AGX Orin modules deliver up to 275 TOPS of AI performance with power configurable between 15W and 60W. This gives you up to 8X the performance of Jetson AGX Xavier™ in the same compact form factor. Jetson AGX Orin is available in 64GB, 32GB, and Industrial versions."

[FranklyFlawless]

@luja

the ssd is connected using pcie? how many lanes?

raspberry-pi-5-product-brief.pdf

• PCIe 2.0 x1 interface for fast peripherals (requires separate M.2 HAT or other adapter)

[luja]

honorary mention:
The stupids have learned to include impedance controlled PCIe in revision 5.

[https://www.hackatronic.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/Raspberry-Pi-5-Specification.jpg]

Wow, all that YAK-Shit using USB2 bridges could come to an end.
CAN over SPI, Ethernet and HDD over USB as NAS storage and so on.

We use real hardware with I/O power. And also unfortunately ARM is the wrong arch.
my old workstation has pcie 2.0 and 4 or 8 lanes pcie per slot, not 1x lane in total
" PCIe 2.0 x1 interface for fast peripherals" cant use pcie bifurcation or a pcie switch/b ridge here

Others have better HW with pcie4 or5.
Graphics is not part of the game here as we only show some windows of text and graphics. Any 64MB+ Graphicsboard should be enough for qubes so having some old cad graphics with 16 lanes is not important here, it just looks good and provides crisp DP output with high resolution on 4 screens like a bloomberg terminal …

If there is qubes for ARM, I would like to see it with NVIDIA ORIN AGX or newer industrial computing module as it is a pocket “supercomputer” with 64GB RAM and enough powerful CPU cores with virtualization support, according to tech doc. The tensor and cuda stuff can not be used with qubes, which is a bit bad for the toy which loves its customized nvidia ubuntu.