How To: Verify Qubes Digital Signatures and Key Verification (Verifying Signatures)

I also have a reddit post about this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Qubes/comments/m6jpqa/how_to_verify_qubes_digital_signatures_and_key/?

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Ah, so not any major errors in the instructions, just some details of accurate presentation. I was worried I was getting a bit rusty for a moment! :smile:

If you want to spread your video some more, you may want to consider sending it into the [qubes-users] mailing list. It is usually for fielding support questions similar to #user-support here, but I have seen people send in their creations and projects as well, such as here and here, as well as other items that may interest the general community (ex: 1, 2). So I assume that would be an acceptable use of the mailing list, but don’t quote me on that!

John

I haven’t used the mailing lists as it was confusing but I’ll give it another shot. I’ll check out the other links as well.

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Since you’re new to the forum still can’t edit it. Just let me know the new link and I’ll update it for you. I can also make the post into a wiki post. But that will allow anyone edit it as well. (probably not what you want)

Whenever you have an issue like this, you can flag your post and add via the flag a message to the moderators. We will promptly help you.

edit: I’ve updated to what I think is the latest version. Uploaded 20h to your channel.

Also, contributions that increase the accessibility of qubes for non-technical users are very much appreciated.

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Here’s some feedback as well. I don’t understand enough of the process of verifying signatures on windows to give feedback on that, but there is a recent contribution by @GWeck detailing this process:

Feedback

What I liked:

  • Arrows pointing to the documentation
    This is something no other tutorial seems to do but it helps a lot people see that you’re just following the docs. Most people just watch the tutorials and thing those tutorials are the only source of information there it.

  • voice
    The voice sounds great and is pretty clear. A lot of tutorials have poor audio, but this is not the case.

What I think could be improved:

  • windows aesthetics
    the windows theme you’re using seems to a bit different than what people are used to (the colors seem off) - not sure if it’s the version you’re using or the theme. But this may make people confused as to which window you are opening. For example, whenever I share screenshots of Qubes, I to to reset all my visual settings to the default onces (white theme instead of dark theme) to make easier for others to follow along.

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@deeplow Thank you for updating the link.

I use windows 7 and a different theme because I have light-induced migraines so I’m constantly having to edit the theme colors to adapt to my vision issues. I can remake the entire placards and make them uniform and swap them in the editor. I also try to make my videos engaging and entertaining, since some of the humor. :slight_smile:

I appreciate the uplifting encouragement that you guys have provided.

I saw the link you provided by GWeck and I don’t entirely understand his thought process about the decrypt command but I’ll shoot a message on the thread he’s in.

Lastly, if you could update the topic of this thread to " How To: Verify Qubes Digital Signatures and Key Verification (Verifying Signatures)" and the description to the first paragraph of my video that would be awesome:

In this tutorial we will be easily verifying signatures to ensure that your download of the Qubes ISO is more authentic. This is important because evil, desperate people suffering from IBS and with malicious intent may try to compromise your download. Using this tutorial assumes that you are not using a compromised computer. If your computer is compromised then no amount of verifications or fancy doo-dads will help.

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Thank you @deeplow !

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Yes, I think it did the trick! It makes it more easy to follow, especially for someone who has never seen a command line.

Ah. I see. Then I guess it is probably too much work to change it. Maybe adding a note in the beginning (in future videos) just acknowledging that the colors in your windows are a bit different, but that people can follow along just fine. Idk, just a suggestion. Otherwise it may feel to the viewer that it is a different version of windows or something.

On another note, it would be interesting to have feedback on the accessibility of Qubes (maybe in another post), if you’re interested. I bet there are ways to make it more accessibly for people with visual challenges. (again, just if you’re interested)

That’s what a community is for :slight_smile:

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Disclaimer added in the video description.

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@JTeller3 I posted on the mailing list:
https://groups.google.com/g/qubes-users/c/JwZOg9a4xsc

I made the post in the same format as my video, which I find humorous. lol

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Hi,

My observations:

  • your voice is great.
    (I wouldn’t be surprised if you use it for your living :wink:

  • the video/audio quality is super.

  • As somebody already noted, the used commands should be copy-pasted, and you already included comment for easy copy-pasting - that is really cool!

  • Everybody would be able to follow your guide - even if not even knowing what he is doind :smiley:

But my concern is exactly this.
You give the listener very detailed instructions about how to copy-paste - while talking about gpg signature checking of a Qubes download. These two topics are assuming very different level of knowledge.
I mean if somebody can’t copy-paste a string to a command line without this level of guidance, that person will not namage to install any operating systen in their own for sure…

If somebody able to install an operating system alone, that person surely not needs instructions about how to copy-paste…

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Well then, perhaps I should do tutorials on installations and use of Qubes. lol

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something that’s badly needed from someone who has been using qubes as a daily driver for a while:

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@deeplow , you have done a very good job of confusing me. I glanced through the link you posted but i haven’t a clue what you are implying and it relates to me. I’m not being rude or anything but I am legit confused as to your statement and link. lol

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Sorry. No confusion intended.

Most produced youtube tutorials on Qubes are really misleading because they’re made by reviewers, who make mistakes in their explanations because they haven’t played around enough with the system. I was saying updated video tutorials made by someone who has been using the system for a while is needed. Not sure for how long you’ve been using it, though. Just stating a gap in user-related support.

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I completely understand. I actually haven’t used Qubes in ages but for a while it was my go-to as my secondary operating system. I just remember the struggles I had when trying to verify qubes and how I streamlined it. I don’t feel comfortable right now to make tutorials inside qubes but leading up to interacting with the GUI, I can make all those tutorials just fine. If somebody wants me to do inside-Qubes tutorials, I’ll need help.

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Also, I hate video editing and making tutorials (because of video editing) but I’m really good at it. lol

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I’m going to need to update my tutorial to change the VLC icons and add some extra Kleopatra steps.

Whelp, apparently I can’t do that. Youtube doesn’t allow me to replace the video. I’ll add a secondary video with more verification.

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Now you should be able to. As you use the forum more, you’ll be able to edit after up to 30 days of posting.

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Oh sorry, I mean on YouTube. My apologies for the confusion.

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