How do i add new Browsers to a VM Template

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The program Software, not run software

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but the word Software does not exist, i.e. is not an option, closest word i can find is Run Program… do you think i do that one?

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does the said template need to be online do you think or just running as i have not put it online at all yet?

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you should never make your template connected to the network

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what template are you using?

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fedora-38-xfce

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this template is obsolete, when did you install Qubes OS? Did you use it since installation?

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Could you install fedora-40 template and do the instructions with it? It will work better.

(not related to the template fedora 38 being obsolete, but you should not use it for security reasons)

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i installed it a few weeks ago and never used it until today, i have cloned it and im using one of the clones of it online currently, is that bad, thanks for letting me know that i should i stop immediately, yet why has the system not updated it to 40 or given me an option to do it do you think?

I did also try your CLI Commands in the Debian-12-xfce template and get the exact same issue of no software name or no run software either

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you do not need to make the template online, and you should not do it

templates do not upgrade from a version to another easily

xfce templates do not provide GNOME Software (the full name of the program named Software), maybe you can install it but I do not know if it will be compatible as it might pull in a lot of GNOME related packages as dependencies :woman_shrugging:

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It is still possible to install web browsers without Software, I wanted to go this way because it provides a nice graphical user interface that is easy to use (once you have it working of course).

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On Fedora templates, the following commands should install librewolf, chromium and mullvad browsers

sudo dnf config-manager --add-repo https://rpm.librewolf.net/librewolf-repo.repo
sudo dnf config-manager --add-repo https://repository.mullvad.net/rpm/stable/mullvad.repo
sudo dnf install librewolf chromium mullvad-browser
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so i presume from your text i need to stop what im doing and get fedora 40 downloaded asap, yet to do so i would need to know exactly the name of the said fedora to install and qubes doesnt seem to say, not sure where i find it but i presume i need to follow these instructions, what do you think?

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There is a Qubes Template Manager graphical user program available from the Qubes OS menu that allows you to manage templates easily

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ahhh i see, you are so so good at this, i found it, wipee, looks excellent, which fedora do i want do you think please, minimal or xfce or just 40?
I am currently downloading fedora-40 as im impatient for your reply and extreamly excited and just hope im doing the correct one.

also does it matter they all say on the repo name itl-testing

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I work as a technical writer :wink:

you can install a fedora 39 template if you do not want one from testing (which may have a few issues, if any), but fedora 39 will be obsolete in a few months too. Fedora releases are only maintained for a year approximately and there is a release every 6 months.

I’d recommend the fedora-39 or fedora-49 templates, except if you really like the xfce tooling

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i have now done so as said and i seem to have action, software there and i have used your very helpful commands for the repos which are currently doing something, i am so so grateful and happy right now, you have given me a huge leg up on the qubes ladder of understanding some things to find my way around a little, however i do have some more questions if you have time please;

  1. Exactly how/where does one go to find the commands and the repo addresses as you posted above for the browsers?

  2. what do i do about Debian-12-xfce template not doing the software thingy as when i go to find the new Debian i dont find one for that, should i just install Debian-12 the one still in testing do you think please?

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I think it should have the Software program, if not there is a package to install to provide it. But from memory I do not know which one.

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Ok, well i have now installed fedora-40 and managed to delete the old Fedora-38-xfce template and i managed to upload all browsers as you provided and now im off to try and figure out how to do Brave then im up and running, all looking amazing now, im so so so happy thanks to you Solene, you are amazing and again thanks for your time and help much appreciated.

Ow i meant the actual command before the repo address, i.e. ```
sudo dnf config-manager --add-repo i mean is there a list of such commands held in a document somewhere that anyone can access for example do you know?

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For these commands, this is “unfortunately” skills you need to learn for each distributions. dnf is the Fedora program to manage packages. Their documentation is not so bad and contains a lot of explanations: Using the DNF software package manager :: Fedora Docs

If you want to install Brave

sudo dnf install dnf-plugins-core
sudo dnf config-manager --add-repo https://brave-browser-rpm-release.s3.brave.com/brave-browser.repo
sudo rpm --import https://brave-browser-rpm-release.s3.brave.com/brave-core.asc
sudo dnf install brave-browser

The instructions are on their website Installing Brave on Linux | Brave