Discussion on Purism

[Justin]

ubersecure does this discussion clarify things?

I tremendously appreciate Thierry’s table in Discussion on Purism - #35 by Insurgo (though I regret that he had to make it). I understand it to say that the Comet Lake Librem 14 @ubersecure linked to (previously in another thread now, thx @fsflover ) could be ME Deactivated (or “disabled” to use purism terms) but not neutered or removed. If I’ve misunderstood, please!, anyone, correct me.

Is the Purism Librem 14 Comet Lake FSP also well understood and worthy of discussion?

I’m confused, but thankfully I doubt I’d ever seriously consider buying a Purism product.

@Cid7

What happened previously with Purism?

I wish I had the time and motivation to write a response to this. unman’s comments above, basically sum up my opinion:

@unman

Purism was not the first company to sell neutralized and disabled ME.
They built a company on shilling customers and misdirection.
I don’t say they achieved nothing - I explicitly said that they now look
like a reasonable company.

@unman

As I recall Purism got certification for one laptop. Then produced
another laptop with different hardware, but called it by the same
name, and represented it as also certified…
I remember the mailing list being hit by people who had bought a
laptop that was described as Qubes certified, only for Qubes to make it
clear that that laptop was not certified.

@unman

It’s obvious that we aren’t going to agree: you are invested in
Purism, and I have no interest in them. I don’t like their business
practice and it taints their products for me.