Debian 13 and Fedora 42 Template Release Dates?

Melanie · May 30, 2025, 12:45am

When exactly will be released
template debian-13
template fedora-42

How can I download and install it?

unman · May 30, 2025, 2:21am

Trixie - Not yet.
Fedora-42 is already in testing for 4.3, but not 4.2
They will be released when they are ready.

You will be able to download first stabs from the template-testing repository.
Final releases using qvm-template from the standard templates
repository.

Announcements will be made when they are ready for release.

I never presume to speak for the Qubes team.
When I comment in the Forum I speak for myself.

klaus · May 30, 2025, 3:01am

Hi @Unman, is there a repo you can point us at where work on 4.2 version of F42 is being done? My initial search didn’t yield much…

Jedi · May 30, 2025, 4:11am

I believe they implied F42 was not being tested for 4.2, but instead 4.3 only.

You can refer to this post to find the latest testing .iso for Qubes 4.3.

As I understand there’s no prospective date for 4.3’s release.

alimirjamali · May 30, 2025, 8:54am

One of the last major blockers for Fedora 42 release is currently being worked on:

github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues

Convert applications that use gbulb to use native asyncio on pygobject >= 3.50

opened 09:09PM - 25 Feb 25 UTC

marmarek

C: manager/widget C: Fedora P: default

### The problem you're addressing (if any) https://github.com/beeware/gbulb is …deprecated as asyncio is supported natively in pygobject 3.50+. And gbulb doesn't work with pygobject 3.50+ anymore (complains about missing `GLibEventLoop.running` attribute). Fedora 42 has pygobject 3.50. ### The solution you'd like While fixing gbulb may work as a short term solution (not sure how complex the fix would - it isn't obvious if the `running` attribute is the only problem), it isn't a long term solution. Migration to native glib support is a better idea long term. But also, for the time being we need to support older pygobject too. The change look to be rather simple: https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-core-qrexec/pull/191/files, and it should be possible to wrap in some condition based on the pygobject version, or maybe even via try/except ImportError on GlibEventLoopPolicy. ### The value to a user and who that user might be Less dependencies (especially deprecated ones). Necessary for #9807 ### Completion criteria checklist The following repositories need to be adjusted: - [ ] core-qrexec (see PR linked above): https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-core-qrexec/pull/208 - [ ] desktop-linux-menu: https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-desktop-linux-menu/pull/56 - [ ] desktop-linux-manager: https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-desktop-linux-manager/pull/263

Jedi · May 30, 2025, 10:40am

If I read that correct, does that imply you’re trying to update the gui from F37 to F42? That’s exciting. I thought I’d read elsewhere that it was only going to be F41.

alimirjamali · May 30, 2025, 10:47am

Sorry for misunderstanding. To clarify, for Qubes OS r4.3, dom0 will be updated from F37 to F41 (not Fedora 42).

But for both Qubes OS r4.2 and Qubes OS r4.3, it is possible to setup one or more inidividual GUIVMs separate from dom0. The documentation on how to setup a GUIVM is available here:

At this moment, the GUI Domains are based on Fedora 41 template. But making them compatible with Fedora 42 template is in the plan.

Melanie · May 30, 2025, 11:09am

Since I am not so good at programming Mullvad VPN I immediately thought of the next new

template Debian-13
or
Template Fedora-42

to use.

Not that I have to repeat it in a few days.

According to the internet test: Connection check | Mullvad VPN

The connection check is in the green area.

However, the system tells me “Install new templates with Template Manager”.

Now my question, what should I do now, what and how should I renew what or how is that meant what I should do exactly?

andreasglashauser · May 30, 2025, 11:17am

Could you clarify what you are trying to accomplish? I dont see the connection between Mullvad’s VPN Connection check & Qubes’ “Install new templates with Template Manager”?