Purism Librem 14 v1

dom0 · March 16, 2022, 9:27am

Remarks

Everything that was working on QubesOS R4.0 is working on QubesOS R4.1, and I am loving the update! I love that the Qui-Domains application now includes the option to open a file manager in any running qube. I love the new qube icons and the visual direction that QubesOS is going. And I love the immense speed improvements that I am experiencing (though that could be in part due to installing QubesOS R4.1 on a newer, faster, and larger SSD and leaving more empty space available on it). Where qubes would take up to 12 seconds to boot on my previous R4.0 installation on my older drive, qubes now boot in 3 to 5 seconds, and my Qubes Manager takes 1 to 2 seconds to load as opposed to the 30 seconds or more on my previous installation.

The only issue that I have seen is that there are visual glitches of the mouse cursor when moving it across a button or other item that causes the cursor to change appearance (such as the border of a window, in which the regular mouse cursor arrow becomes a window resize arrow). And there are also some visual glitches that others have mentioned when on the Luks decryption screen.

However, I need to make a correction on my original post at the top of this thread. When I tested that the headphone jack worked, I made a Signal call. I could hear the person on the other end, and they could hear me, so I concluded that everything was working as expected. Well it seems that I was wrong. The headphones were being used for audio output, but the laptop microphones were being used for audio input. And I have now seen posts like this:

Sorry for the error everyone. @Sven, could you correct my original post to replace this:

3.5mm Headphone Jack (Output and Input)

with this:

3.5mm Headphone Jack (Output ~~and Input~~) ← Correction

Thank you.

Attachments

Qubes-HCL-Purism-Librem_14-20220316-033600.yml (846 Bytes)

fsflover · March 16, 2022, 10:01am

Thank you for your valuable contribution! I edited your post and also mentioned that the latest report is here.

Sven · March 16, 2022, 7:08pm

Thank you @dom0, your new report is online now!

peterle · July 12, 2022, 5:51pm

I am thinking about buying a Librem 14 specifically for Qubes. I would like to use the Librem14 mostly between two locations in a kind of “docking station” setup where I connect preferably only a minimum number of cables. I would like to be able to keep my desktop with the open windows running when connecting to the external monitor + periphery (no reboot of the entire system). Does this work? I saw that the Librem 14 has a USB-C port that supports Display port. Does this work for hot swap? Does Power Delivery work together with the other USB-C features? What about Ethernet network and HID via USB-C?

Can anybody recommend a docking station that works w/ Librem 14 + Qubes? Preferable, it would have DisplayPort w/ MST to support 2 monitors (not strict on this, just nice to have), Ethernet, USB for HID and Power Delivery.

Peter

fsflover · July 13, 2022, 7:45am

kenosen · August 27, 2022, 5:50pm

Remarks

Function buttons do not work after suspend.
No suspend on lid close.
Pureboot issues after any Qube Update.

gpu-short: |
FIXME
network: |
Qualcomm Atheros AR9462 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 15)
memory: |
65410
scsi: |

usb: |
1
versions:

works:
‘FIXME:yes|no|partial’
qubes: |
R4.1
xen: |
4.14.5
kernel: |
5.15.57-1
remark: |
FIXME
credit: |
FIXAUTHOR
link: |
FIXLINK

Sven · August 30, 2022, 8:26pm

Thank you @kenosen for this report, which is online now.

Can you please be a bit more descriptive – what do you see? …what do you expect?

kenosen · August 30, 2022, 9:35pm

Absolutely; after any update through Qubes Update, I would have to follow regenerate TOTP/HOTP secret in Librem Key, and reset TPM, sometimes this would not validate and eventually the Qubes image was not found and I’d be forced to reinstall. I’m virtually certain that this is user-error, but it became a major hurdle to logins and for now presented too much worry about whether my system would reboot properly after a full shutdown.

EDIT: I expect to use the Librem Key to verify the boot, but not have to reset the key, et.al., each time.

I was also able to manage the lid shut suspend by editing logind.conf in /etc/systemd/ by uncommenting HandleLidSwitch=suspend

And as noted by others in this thread, I’m still experiencing erratic xfce4-power-manager status notifications, but I am one update behind on the EC firmware. Will test with new EC firmware next week along with the librem-ec-acpi-dkms from Purism.

kenosen · November 4, 2022, 12:13am

@Sven just an update. I was able to switch back to PureBoot without too many issues, but with dom0 and kernel updates, it’s still preferable to keep Coreboot.

I also now believe the issues with function buttons are a product of ongoing kernel issues, not Librem specific. I also note that after updating the librem-ec-dkms the “killswitch” LED for wifi went dark. Here’s how to fix that:

sudo -i
modprobe ledtrig-netdev
echo netdev > /sys/class/leds/librem_ec\:airplane/trigger
echo wls6 > /sys/class/leds/librem_ec\:airplane/device_name
echo 1 > /sys/class/leds/librem_ec\:airplane/rx
echo 1 > /sys/class/leds/librem_ec\:airplane/tx
exit

wqpw · December 30, 2022, 4:02pm

Here is my HCL report.
Qubes-HCL-Purism-librem_14-20221230-105916.yml (845 Bytes)

Unfortunately I have the following problems:

The CPU frequency maximum is at 1.1GHz (related to this issue I guess CPU Frequency Scaling Broken · Issue #4604 · QubesOS/qubes-issues · GitHub).
After suspend the following things don’t work (reliably)
- Charging (the connected charger is not detected by Qubes but it charges extremely slow).
- The wifi passwords in sys-net seem to get forgotten (after a reboot I have to enter them again).
- The screen brightness keys stop working.
Graphical glitches on disk unlock LUKS screen.
If the camera and mic is turned of via the hardware switch the wifi PCI device is not discovered during boot. Switching it off when Qubes has been started works fine though.

Heads and Coreboot work fine.

wqpw · December 30, 2022, 4:08pm

Regarding the 1.1GHz issue. Could whoever reads this and has a Librem 14 check if it affects also their device?

Run those commands in dom0

xenpm get-cpufreq-states
xenpm start 1 | grep "Avg freq"

and report back if anything bigger then 1.1GHz shows up.

fsflover · December 30, 2022, 8:41pm

This is expected, if you are using a disposable sys-net. See this: Convert sys-net to disposable - #8 by fsflover

github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues

Laggy and pixelated disk decryption passphrase entry screen

opened 09:38PM - 14 Mar 22 UTC

closed 01:12PM - 29 Jan 23 UTC

vblimits

T: bug C: kernel P: major hardware support diagnosed affects-4.1

[How to file a helpful issue](https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/issue-tracking/) #…## Qubes OS release 4.0.4 4.1.0 running on Librem 14 with 2TB samsung NVMe 980 PRO (new) 32Gigs 3200 Ram (new) ### Brief summary during boot when i get to enter my disk encryption phrase the mouse pointer, and text (balls as i type) are pixelated and entire is vary leggie (about 1 sec per char) it looks like a screen refresh issue as i can type at normal speed just takes a long time to catch up. ### Steps to reproduce fresh install of 4.0.4 or 4.1.0 (3 diffrent times) ### Expected behavior Smoth typing no screen artifact's ### Actual behavior slow on screen update of type char's and screen artifacts on both the mouse cursor and "*" in the text box while typing,

fsflover · December 30, 2022, 8:55pm

Just tried suspending and, after getting back, the brightness keys are working. Try to switch on “Handle display brightness keys” in Xfce Power Manager, “General” tab.

Yes, the first command shows max 1.1 GHz. No such problem with Librem 15 though (the latter shows up to 2.5 GHz).

But the second command showed up to 2.2 GHz for me under a load on L14.

wqpw · December 30, 2022, 9:15pm

My sys-net is not disposable.

Thanks for testing.

Didn’t helped for me unfortunately.

kate.mason · December 30, 2022, 9:57pm

I have tested on my Librem 14 and confirm 1.1GHz issue exists.

Sven · December 30, 2022, 10:14pm

Thank you @wqpw for your HCL report, which is online now!

wqpw · March 8, 2023, 4:03pm

The 1.1GHz issue seems to be fixed. Doing stress testing with qvm-start --all I get up to 2.8GHz also my compile times are much shorter. Anyone has a better idea how to stress test the full 4.7GHz?

This is only a problem for me if the charger is connected after the laptop is resumed from suspend. Connecting the charger while it is still sleeping works fine.

This occurs only after an EC and Coreboot update for me now. Several restarts fix the problem.

Here is an updated HCL report with PureBoot 24 and the latest EC firmware (upload doesn't work. So here the file content):

---
layout:
  'hcl'
type:
  'laptop'
hvm:
  'yes'
iommu:
  'yes'
slat:
  'yes'
tpm:
  ''
remap:
  'yes'
brand: |
  Purism
model: |
  librem_14
bios: |
  PureBoot-Release-24
cpu: |
  Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10710U CPU @ 1.10GHz
cpu-short: |
  FIXME
chipset: |
  Intel Corporation Device [8086:9b51]
chipset-short: |
  FIXME
gpu: |
  Intel Corporation Comet Lake UHD Graphics [8086:9bca] (rev 04) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
  
gpu-short: |
  FIXME
network: |
  Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 15)
memory: |
  32642
scsi: |

usb: |
  1
versions:

- works:
    'FIXME:yes|no|partial'
  qubes: |
    R4.1
  xen: |
    4.14.5
  kernel: |
    5.15.94-1
  remark: |
    FIXME
  credit: |
    FIXAUTHOR
  link: |
    FIXLINK

---

dom0 · March 30, 2023, 11:22pm

Remarks

Qubes OS 4.1.2, as expected, runs perfectly on the Librem 14, and there is one notable update.

Microphone input via the headphone jack has been implemented by Purism developer Jonathon Hall with the releases of Librem-EC 1.13 and coreboot 4.19-Purism-1/PureBoot 25, as described here:

@fsflover, I think that my other HCL Reports here and here should be edited to reflect this update and link to this post.

Even though Qubes OS 4.0 is EOL, a Librem 14 on Qubes OS 4.0 with the latest Librem-EC and coreboot would have working microphone input via the headphone jack.

Obviously, I recommend updating to Qubes OS 4.1.2, as there are no drawbacks, and it has new features and security updates.

Attachments

Qubes-HCL-Purism-Librem_14-20230330-172504.yml (846 Bytes)

Sven · April 2, 2023, 8:17pm

Thank you @dom0 for your updated HCL report, which is online now! The remark makes clear that coreboot 4.19 is required to make the microphone work. Since your other two reports are for the identical machine with different BIOS versions, I think this makes the point rather clear.

dom0 · April 3, 2023, 5:25am

I agree, the remark in the HCL is quite clear.

Thank you @Sven for continuing to maintain the HCL, as well as your posts here in the forum.